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>"sounds like the ride we do about every other >saturday. except our loop has more climbing in it. our >ride has three 3 mile climbs at an avg grade of about >7%. Two 2 mile climbs at around 6%. and depending on >which way we go out there we can throw in another 3 >mile climb at avg 9% or we could do a 6 mile climb at >about 7%. and you wonder why i am so skinny these >days. you don't need a 25 out here because if you want >to stay with the group you will never get in it. > >scott" > >What we really wonder is why you still suck at >everything but running your mouth.

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