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Date Posted: 21:35:22 10/20/03 Mon
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Pageant Scam Warning for GA!

There is a pageant coming your way. The name is America's National Dream Queen. This pageant "director" has had 3 pageants so far and has not paid any of her winners from any of her pageants so far.

She tells you up to the day of competition that she will pay cash on stage and then at crowning tell you to wait a few months. My daughter and several other children and adults are still waiting for their prize money after a year of waiting and being patient.

This "director" has purchased an intirely new pageant wardrobe for her daughter and has had a few photo pageant photo sessions (Tony Overby and Micheal Butler) as well as entered her daughter in several pageants since then.

She tells me and the many others that she does not have the money to pay any of her winners but she obviously has the money.

This "director" owes so many people all over the US from her last 3 pageants. She has not paid anyone and she intends to pay no one.

She holds a pageant whenever she needs money to purchase new photos, pageant outfits or pay for coaching for her daughter.

Just thought I would let you know since this pageant is coming to Atlanta, GA.

DO NOT ENTER THIS PAGEANT OR THE PHOTO CONTEST SHE WILL NOT PAY HER WINNERS!!

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[> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 21:50:44 10/20/03 Mon [1]

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[> [> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 14:55:04 10/22/03 Wed [1]

This Is Not The First Time I Seen This On The Boards.
If You Know Something You Need To Tell Us. Most OF The Moms In GA Are Boycotting This Pageant. We've Heard Nothing But It's A Scam.

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[> [> [> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 13:05:02 10/23/03 Thu [1]

I asked The Question,This Is The Awnser.
Does Anyone Know Anything About A Pageant Called America's National Dream Queen?It's Run By Naomi Satterwhite.Any Info Would Be Great. -- No name, 08:55:41 10/23/03 Thu

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Info for you is to stay away from what I have read on the boards and heard from many people at other pageants. It's a joke pageant everyone says. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:59 10/23/03 Thu
THAT IS THE DIRECTOR AND SHE HAS NOT PAID ANY OF HER WINNERS FROM LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR. SHE WONT PAY THEM. GOOD ADVICE STAY AWAY FROM THAT PAGEANT. (NT) -- No name, 10:30:44 10/23/03 Thu

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[> [> [> [> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 18:16:54 10/23/03 Thu [1]

Info for you is to stay away from what I have read on the boards and heard from many people at other pageants. It's a joke pageant everyone says. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:59 10/23/03 Thu
THAT IS THE DIRECTOR AND SHE HAS NOT PAID ANY OF HER WINNERS FROM LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR. SHE WONT PAY THEM. GOOD ADVICE STAY AWAY FROM THAT PAGEANT. (NT) -- No name, 10:30:44 10/23/03 Thu
From GA.on our board 161766 a message said to ask here about this pageant.Is this a good pageant?Good competition?Did the winners get paid?All we heard is scam.Is this just someone jealous or is it a worth our money? (NT) -- No name, 13:26:11 10/23/03 Thu
DO NOT enter your child in this sytem. (NT) -- No name, 15:53:47 10/23/03 Thu
This director uses leftover trophies and gifts from the $$ store. She doesn't pay her queens either. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 17:51:48 10/23/03 Thu

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 12:51:54 10/24/03 Fri [1]

I saw the post on our VA board that people on this GA board were asking about the ANDQ pageant. I entered my daughter in this pageant this year and we were not paid. The director told us the day before the pageant that she was going to pay cash on stage but it would be prorated. My girl has not received her winnings todate. She only won a $500 bond/$250 cash and the director has not paid us. I know another mom who was there and she her girl has not been paid either. I also know two of the pageant moms who took her daughters to their National pageant last year and they each said that their daughters have not been paid either. Since some of you are thinking of going to this pageant I figured I would let you know how it was for us at the mini national. Our girls received the old dirty crowns as stated in one of the posts. We were told there would be judges from modeling agencies and scouts as judges. There was only one judge there and she told me that she was a guest at the hotel who was asked at the last minute if she would give a few moments to judge a beauty pageant.

I would leave my email address so I could talk with you but we still do pageants and I do not want the pageant community to laugh at my daughter or myself for going to this pageant. My daughter does have a title from this pageant but it is not a thing to be glad of since it was this pageant.

Here is another post from our board about this pageant. It was not written by me. I brought it here since I was coming to warn you.

COPIED FROM THE VA BOARD ABOUT ANDQ
Please don't waste your time and money for this crappy pageant! I wished I'd had never gone! Can't believe she lied about giving out the money, and then has the nerve to show up at pageants, like if nothing is wrong! Please do not go! If you do, you would probably be the only one there and she will still have her pageant!LOL Run fast, don't waste your money, wished I never did!!! (NT) -- No name, 22:43:34 10/23/03 Thu

I only post my comments and the one from our board so you will not have to go through the same thing. Thank you for listening.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Ask for information on the voy board 94602. More than a few will respond! This pageant had to be taken out of the State of VA due to legal violations and too many non paid winners. -- Anonymous, 15:40:53 10/24/03 Fri [1]

Thank You So Much For Your Info On this pageant.I'm definatly Staying Away From This Pageant.

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[> [> [> [> This is not true. There is no legal violations, and this pageant was not taken out of VA at all. This is a cut-throat business, these negative posts are none other than bashing nature, anyone knows that hardly that legally that would not be so in the case of as to where and when a pageant being held. -- Anonymous, 08:59:22 01/31/04 Sat [1]

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[> [> get first - hand information from the director Naomi Satterwhite, email address imapageantgirl@hotmail.com -this is a good national, judges are qualified, new glitz system, pageant is expanding . Must do pageant. Sorry for the negative posts. -- Anonymous, 08:45:07 01/31/04 Sat [1]

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[> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 11:10:38 10/22/03 Wed [1]

Oh My! This is a lie.

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[> [> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 11:06:56 10/23/03 Thu [1]

This is not a lie it is the truth. I saw the director of this pageant throw a nasty fit at a pageant when one of her winners asked her for their winnings. She has the money but told the person to go F**k off she was never going to get her money. Police were called to calm down the ANDQ director. That shows what a nut case she is.

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[> [> [> YOUR STORY IS FABRICATED. the director do not talk like that , i'm sorry you would even put those cuss words together like that. anyone knows NS is a darling sweetheart. NS daughter wins alot , and she does pageants. -- Anonymous, 08:55:00 01/31/04 Sat [1]

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[> [> [> [> NS next time you want to post on this board to the negative posts sign your name. This is the board owner. -- Anonymous, 11:23:14 02/03/04 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> I do not care who you are. I will post wherever and whenever I please to. I do not have to sign my name on this board. Change your board format to name(required) and maybe people who wish not to sign their names will. You have not signed your name, either. Now, gossip about that.. -- Anonymous, 12:39:16 02/04/04 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 20:10:33 02/03/04 Tue [1]

You are lying about NS cursing at that other pageant mom. I was at that pageant and saw the whole incident from the beginning and there were VERY few people standing around so not many people know the TRUTH. That mom grabbed NS by the arm and also pulled on her purse. She would not let go of NS. She kept pulling on NS's purse saying "give me my money" again and again and low menacing growl. She looked like a psycho. NS never yelled and never cursed at her. She did say "let go of me" many times. This other mom did this in front of NS's children and they were very scared that their mom was being pulled like that. I don't know what the beef was about but there was no excuse for that other mother to scare those children and assault NS. NS chose not to press charges against the other mom and she could have. I spoke to the cops myself since I saw everything and was a witness they interviewed. The cops told me NS could press charges and they would arrest the mom who grabbed her and her purse for assault and attempted robbery but that NS insisted on not pressing charges. I think NS handled it very well. I probably would have hauled off and hit the woman and I definitely would have pressed charges.

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[> [> [> [> You may have seen what happened, but how do you know she did not press charges? How is it that YOU have so much of the CORRECT information? NS has no right to press charges against anyone. She is a crooked thief and if she only got her butt kicked one good time, she would quit scamming people. Yeah, the other lady -- Anonymous, 06:15:34 02/04/04 Wed [1]

should not have grabbed her IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN, but had it been me and she owed me and my child, I would have confronted her too. It won't be the last time. She should just expect this from those she owes until she pays up.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: You may have seen what happened, but how do you know she did not press charges? How is it that YOU have so much of the CORRECT information? NS has no right to press charges against anyone. She is a crooked thief and if she only got her butt kicked one good time, she would quit scamming people. Yeah, the other lady -- Anonymous, 12:46:29 02/04/04 Wed [1]

Let me get one thing clear! NS does have the right to press charges, and for your information has up until one year from the date the incident happened to press charges. Now, I'm not the one to gossip -- you ain't heard it from me.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Heather Marshall is the Mom that did this to NS, if you are going to tell it, tell it right. The other lady is Heather Marshall, that's who you are talking about . -- Anonymous, 12:56:28 02/04/04 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Heather Marshall is the Mom that did this to NS, if you are going to tell it, tell it right. The other lady is Heather Marshall, that's who you are talking about . -- Anonymous, 19:29:58 02/04/04 Wed [1]

why don't you tell it naomi? tell us how heather was about to put her foot in your a**. tell us why so many of your contestants parents are still asking for you to pay them. tell us why you consistantly lie about your numbers. tell us why you lie about the vendors coming to your pageant? you seem to be very active on this board telling us about your pageant, so please..tell us; and don't leave anything out.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I am going to tell it like it is.... -- Anonymous, 09:14:00 02/05/04 Thu [1]

This is to the person posting negative trash about NS, YOU are a LIAR, you can't tell the truth even if your life depended on it. You crave for more attn. and your intentions are all wrong. Well, since you are so hungry... Feed into this...

JELLIIIIIISSSSSS!(You do know what this word is, don't you?) Tell me, why are you so envious of NS? You are obviously intimidated by her daughter, TS. TS is a beautiful, beautiful little girl. You my dear, are intimidated by her. That is why you are so-o-o fixed on NS! As the saying goes "DON'T HATE ME BECAUSE I'M BEAUTIFUL". Strong facial beauty. Beautiful on the inside out. Beautiful in every way. Everytime TS shows her face at a pageant, you are intimidated by her. You should be. She is gorgeous. You heard. Gorgeous. You know that , don't you? I know. You hate those banners with her beautiful face on it, don't you. I bet it just rips you apart, knowing she is that beautiful. I know. It's not about you or me, it's not about ANDQ, it's not about who did what , when, where, why, HOW? Now is it ? NO! It's all about TS. TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS. That's right! It's all about TS.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I am going to tell it like it is.... -- Anonymous, 09:15:59 02/05/04 Thu [1]

This is to the person posting negative trash about NS, YOU are a LIAR, you can't tell the truth even if your life depended on it. You crave for more attn. and your intentions are all wrong. Well, since you are so hungry... Feed into this...

JELLIIIIIISSSSSS!(You do know what this word is, don't you?) Tell me, why are you so envious of NS? You are obviously intimidated by her daughter, TS. TS is a beautiful, beautiful little girl. You my dear, are intimidated by her. That is why you are so-o-o fixed on NS! As the saying goes "DON'T HATE ME BECAUSE I'M BEAUTIFUL". Strong facial beauty. Beautiful on the inside out. Beautiful in every way. Everytime TS shows her face at a pageant, you are intimidated by her. You should be. She is gorgeous. You heard. Gorgeous. You know that , don't you? I know. You hate those banners with her beautiful face on it, don't you. I bet it just rips you apart, knowing she is that beautiful. I know. It's not about you or me, it's not about ANDQ, it's not about who did what , when, where, why, HOW? Now is it ? NO! It's all about TS. TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS. That's right! It's all about TS.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> TS is cute. NS you can quit calling her gorgeous. I doubt anyone is jealous. No one knows who she is and no one really cares. She doesn't compete here in GA. Who would be intimidated by a child? Is she a national winner? Is she a pro? What systems have she won in? Whose banners is she on? -- Anonymous, 15:44:15 02/06/04 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> I'm the poster who told the story of what really happened and I am not NS. I couldn't remember the other mom's name because I had never met her before and I didn't want to try to guess at remembering her name and maybe post an innocent person's name. Anyway, I know NS did not press charges at the time of the incident because the cops who were interviewing me as a witness told me NS had decided not to press charge at that time and I didn't need to stay around for more questioning. -- Anonymous, 19:41:40 02/04/04 Wed [1]

This happened after crowning at a pageant and everyone wanted to go home. I didn't know the other mother before this incident and I hope I never run into her again. I thought her behavior was outrageous. I only posted because someone who obviously wasn't there was posting lies about how NS handled the situation. I honestly don't know a thing about NS's pageant but I thought it was wrong of someone to post blatant lies about an incident that was so wrong from everyone's point of view who saw it. Everyone who saw it thought that other mom was really out of line and the fact that she did this in front of NS's children and her own child and my child and lots of other people's children is outrageous. She ought to be ashamed of herself. My daughter was very scared and talked about it for weeks afterward. I was deeply offended that this woman thought it was appropriate to assault another pageant mom in front of so many children. Tasteless and classless and trashy. If this woman had a true beef with NS over money she should have sued her. Its a simple thing to do in small claims court. Instead she chose the low class trashy road of assault.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> OK NAOMI...WHATEVER!!, LOL YOU BETTER HOPE NOONE SUES YOU. WHAT WOULD THEY GET? NOTHING, WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE IS GETTING SATISFACTION OUT OF RIPPING YOUR PAGEANT SYSTEM APART AND TELLINGTHE TRUTH ABOUT YOU. -- Anonymous, 07:45:48 02/05/04 Thu [1]

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[> [> It is not a lie. Run the other way!! -- Anonymous, 15:53:09 10/23/03 Thu [1]

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[> [> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 14:55:00 10/25/03 Sat [1]

COPIED FROM ANOTHER BOARD ABOUT ANDQ

Is This Sour Grapes,Or Are These Legitimate Reasons. Someone Keeps Posting On The GA Board That This Is All A Lie. (NT) -- No name, 20:26:10 10/24/03 Fri
I bet that person is NS. This is one pageant that you should definately stay from. She has not paid any of her winners. She keeps moving her pageants to different locations so she can in pull people who haven't heard of her. You have been warned,stay away. Does her paperwork list any past winners? Contact them and see what they have to say it won't be good. (NT) -- No name, 05:30:26 10/25/03 Sat
NS would not have her winners listed on her paper work or give out their emails to prospective contestants. She KNOWS what they will say about her pageant. (NT) -- No name, 14:43:26 10/25/03 Sat

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[> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 14:04:55 10/25/03 Sat [1]

I asked The Question On 2 Different Boards And The Same Awnsers From Both Boards.


She never pays her winners, gives used trophies and crowns, and lies about everything. Sour grapes?? Yes...she owes my daughter money just like many of the kids in VA. She had no problem taking my money, she should pay what she owes or atleast make arrangements with the parents.

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[> [> Re: Pageant Scam Warning for GA! -- Anonymous, 11:22:58 11/21/03 Fri [1]

Don't Come Back Crying And Whining.

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[> [> [> low #'s , at this pageant, winners were paid cash, HA won the GRAND, 7 ft dream trophy, cash & prizes, all winners received cash & prizes, Michael Butler did h/m at this pageant . Tim Arrington, Dana Major & Tammy Arrington were the national judges. It was a nice pageant in Atlanta. Quality gifts, competition was good, not many contestants, but all were great! -- Anonymous, 08:42:03 01/31/04 Sat [1]

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[> [> This is not a big pageant in VA, new pageant, one va state pageant was held and it was open state, only 5 kids entered state, the grand supreme was from OH. -- Anonymous, 08:49:53 01/31/04 Sat [1]

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