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Subject: Re: Jamaica Inn, a comparison between the different versions


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Eva Danø
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Date Posted: 19:57:49 10/13/06 Fri
In reply to: Eva Danø 's message, "Jamaica Inn, a comparison between the different versions" on 12:33:12 09/12/06 Tue

Hmmmm . . . First, the movie isn't much like the original story to begin with. Wasn't Jem supposed to be Joss' brother? I haven't read the book, but I saw the miniseries once a long time ago, and it was supposed to be much closer to the original story.

Also, even the longest version of the movie we have seen (the Miracle DVD, at 98 minutes) is about 10 minutes short of the original release, at least according to my notes, gleaned from various reference volumes over the years. Those 10 minutes probably don't exist anymore :-( but maybe some of that lost footage explain HOW they got from the inn to the cave.

Moreover, our heroine seems a bit of a silly twit to me, or at least not very wise to the world. When she saved Jem and they fled from Jamaica Inn together, she was functioning on pure adrenalin, not doing much thinking at all. Jem took everything in hand, including the flight from the inn and finding a hiding place. When she woke up, she was probably a bit confused as to exactly WHAT had happened, and finding herself in a strange place next to a strange man must have been pretty scary, especially since the man was beeding and had a knife. The blood was probably from the fight and/or the fall the night before, and I assume that the knife was the one she had used to cut him down. Pretty smart of Jem to take it along!

She seemed to accept the situation pretty well once she was fully awake and had a chance to collect herself.

Dunno about you, but I have been known to be a bit confused too for the first few minutes when I wake up in an unusual situation.

Eva

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Susan
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Date Posted: 01:33:36 10/14/06 Sat

Funny you should bring that up, Sue; would you believe that exact same question finally dawned on me after all these viewings just a few nights ago! (Gee, I wonder what could have been distracting me from following the "logic" of that scene all this time?) Not that there's much logic to the plot anyway, which, as you mentioned, Eva, except for the setting (sort of) and some of the names, is barely recognizable from the book. (Yes, Jem is Joss's younger brother--both surnamed Merlyn. There's no "Humphrey Pengallan" in the book either, BTW. Or bumbling wreckers with cute nicknames like "Dandy" and "Salvation." Harry is probably the most faithfully rendered character from the novel, where he's first introduced as "a dirty little blackguard from Redruth who had established himself wit of the assembly." I can't find much discrepancy there.)

Anyway, it certainly does seem like there's a scene missing there! On the other hand, does anybody see that lack of continuity as perhaps a bit misogynistic? As RN's character expresses it, "That's women for you: save your life one minute, then frightened for their own the next." Yup, women are so illogical; that explains everything.

Yeah, it struck me too as odd that she's followed him all that way (in the book--and in real life--Jamaica Inn is well inland, basically smack in the middle of Cornwall and, back then at least, miles from civilization, which allows Miss du Maurier to provide us with all those loving descriptions of the rugged landscape), slept the whole night beside him, and then suddenly she's scared of him and tries to run away??? I would so love to know what happened during the night ... I mean, like where they found the rowboat and how they found that cave in the dark and all. And what he was using the knife for. Did he force her to come along? That would explain her fear, but then he's *completely* unjustified in making that silly generalization about women! (Another one for Medved and Dreyfuss's "Immortal Dialogue.")

The blood on his face is left over from the night before, when Joss clocked him in the head with that tankard, knocking him unconscious so they could hang him; it's in the publicity still where she's just cut him down. But that knife beside him is definitely not the same one she used--remember she took it from her dinner tray? It had a rounded blade. From the handle, his knife looks more like a dagger, probably part of his wrecker gear. (?) I'd still love to see what led up to its being planted in the sand there by his hand! (Yes, I've seen this movie way too many times; I have a *lot* of insomnia! Plus ... isn't freeze frame just the greatest invention? Especially with the clarity of DVDs?)

I could see her being a little confused for a few seconds when she wakes up, but that's some case of amnesia ... She remains disoriented long enough to try to sail away in the boat. Then she lets him pick her up and pull her back into the cave, but then resumes struggling. If only we could see that lost or deleted scene (assuming there is one), perhaps it would make more sense. Hey, if anybody out there has it, I'm sure we'd all pay reasonably good money to see a fully restored version of the film! Otherwise, we'll just have to imagine it in our minds. (Hey, anybody feel like writing some fan fiction??)

As for the miniseries, it was much more faithful to the book, except that, in order to pad it out to four hours (I'm assuming), they too added several scenes. Like that one where Jem arrives in some kind of circus cage--that was totally not in the book! BTW, have I mentioned that I highly recommend the book? ;-) In fact, I'm overdue for another reading of it. (Yeah, in my "spare time," ha.)

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Susan
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Date Posted: 02:06:45 10/14/06 Sat

One other thing ... Eva, you said, "Moreover, our heroine seems a bit of a silly twit to me, or at least not very wise to the world." You really must read the book if you liked the remake at all! Mary's not a twit at all, but smart and independent, although she comes from a sheltered background and has to develop her toughness as she's exposed to the harsh realities that turned the happy and lively aunt she remembers into a nervous shadow of her former self. (The original has some great scenes between Mary and Joss that are left out of the film. Even Joss comes off as a silly twit in the movie as compared to the imposing brute he is the book.) The movie tries to make her all fiery and high-spirited (like where she makes that impassioned speech after foiling their wreck that you can barely understand because of all the wind), but to me it seems contrived.

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Sue G.
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Date Posted: 12:57:58 10/16/06 Mon

Yes Susan, Mary just stood there when Jem came over to get her out of the boat and she put her hands on his shoulders and let him pick her up out of the boat (like he was escorting her from a carriage that was taking them to a ball or something). Then she stood in front of him and said 'leave me alone!' Now, if she was REALLY afraid of him, when he went to get her from the boat she would have pushed him away, kicked at him or knocked him over the head with one of the oars to get him away from her. Not just reach out for him to pick her up and then tell him to leave her alone! Oh my, I guess all of us critics should have been directors, huh? We could show Hitchcock a thing or two!

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