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Date Posted: 02/ 8/05 10:48:19pm
Author: Cody Mobley
Subject: Re: Daley Tait jackets
In reply to: Doug Cooper 's message, "Daley Tait jackets" on 02/ 8/05 12:38:19pm

I re-read your post and would like to point out some false statements in your response.
1) I never stated that there was supposed to be a second line of stitching on the button hole front panel of the jacket, I said that the distinctive second row of top stitching was missing from the button side of the jacket. This, according to Leslie Jensen's article for Company of Military Historians as well as on the two Taits that I have seen, was the distinctive marker of a Tait jacket (other thank being machine sewn, 5 piece body, linen lined, etc). If Daley copied the only surviving jacket without the second line of topstitching on the button side panel, his reproduction isn't very PEC, now is it?
2)You know nothing of me other than I have received a jacket from CJ Daley which I feel does not compare favorably to surviving red collared Taits. You, Mr. Cooper, must have balls so big that you have to carry them around in a wheelbarrow to go around claiming that someone that you have never met and know nothing about is unable to determine, based on other surviving Taits, photographs, and Jensen's article, what I believed to be correct. Just because I don't agree with Mr. Daley's work, does not mean that I am an ignorant fool who knows nothing about surviving Taits.
3) I am leery about purchasing anything that is supposed to represent something in a "private collection". I asked Mr. Daley if he could provide me with photos of the original to verify the certain features on his reproduction which I had a problem with. He could not do so because the owner wouldn't allow photos. I have had problems with proprietors selling 'private collection' goods in the past. I mean I could make a RDI made out of silk and sell it stating that it is based on an original in a private collection but that wouldn't make it correct. This example is why I wanted to see the photos of the original.

email me if you wish to discuss this further.
cmobley@angelo.edu
>Gang, I would like to clarify some confusion about
>Chris Daley Tait jackets that has apparently arisen
>over an order by one of us. This member has told
>several of us that he received a "horrendous" Tait
>jacket in the wrong fabric that looks like a child
>made it.
>
>Nonsense.
>
>Fabric - there is only one source right now for
>blue-gray kersey, Charlie Childs, and that is what
>Chris uses. His K-1 has been a standard fabric for
>Tait's, RD 3's, and imported capes and overcoats for
>many years. It matches some of the surviving RD 3
>jackets and a Tait or two and is a bit lighter than
>others. Unless one has seen a jacket in person,
>relying on photos to try to match fabric is too hard.
>In any case, Charlie really does have the only fabric
>right now. Pat Kline no longer makes it and anything
>from England is hit or miss, and very expensive. Of
>note, Bob McDonald, original uniform expert and owner
>of Tait jackets and trousers, likes the weight of CC's
>fabric as it matches more closely the original Tait's
>he has seen, one of which was so stiff it could almost
>stand up by itself (combo of the kersey plus linen
>lining).
>
>Also, Chris did not increase his Tait price even after
>Pat Kline got out of the fabric biz. Childs BG kersey
>is about $9 a yard more than Pat's was. The cost of
>the imported Irish linen lining has gone up as well as
>the Euro has risen so fast vs the dollar.
>
>Stitching - Chris has personally examined the original
>jacket he bases his on, owned by a member of the 2nd
>Virginia Infantry (with a red collar) closely. The
>top-stitching on the cuffs is only about 3-4 stitches
>per inch max...it is not a beautiful thing. The double
>row of front panel top stitching on most Taits is only
>on the front panel that has the buttons, not the side
>with the buttonholes, though at least one of the
>jackets only has a single row on both sides.
>
>For our member to insist he got a "horrendous" Tait,
>never having seen the original, nor knowing anything
>in general about the other surviving originals other
>than photographs, lacks credibility. We need to check
>our facts before we run around on fire in public
>potentially damaging the rep of a guy (or anyone else)
>who is probably one of the most knowledgable, most
>exacting, and certainly most ethical vendors in the
>hobby.
>
>And in case anyone is wondering - I bought my Tait
>"off the rack" from Chris as part of a run, like I do
>most everything...it was not custom made.
>
>Doug

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  • Re: Daley Tait jackets -- Cody Mobley, 02/ 8/05 10:58:52pm
  • Re: Daley Tait jackets -- Tom Yearby, 02/ 9/05 4:50:31am
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