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Date Posted: 16:11:38 09/08/04 Wed
Author: buddhabitch
Author Host/IP: 24.28.173.150
Subject: Re: LitKicks and where it's going
In reply to: Cat 's message, "Re: LitKicks and where it's going" on 12:06:30 09/06/04 Mon

Cat, I wanted to say that I agree with your assessment. Litkicks wanting to go in the direction of collaborative efforts doesn't excite me very much. I think you put it eloquently and honestly. I for one am hesitant to toss my words in a soup and just be another ingredient. It took me a long time to find my poetic voice and it was discovered through the many message boards at litkicks and not particularly through the so called literary ones. I could rant on Flames, utter on Utterances but unlike you, my favorite board and the place I called home was Mindless... Mindless was the epitome of NOW, the place where we talked about music or receipes or someone's birthday. No one seems to want to admit to being Mindless but to me that is the ultimate state of mind. Some of the greatest humor I have ever experienced were on that little board. I laughed outloud many a time at the clever and witty repartee that occurred there. I wrote my dispatches there, stories that were mindless journals of my life. I feel like our community has been rent apart and we will scatter or become just another ingredient in a batch of books of collaborations. I didn't ask to be famous or published, I just wanted to be among like minds who loved literature, writing and bullshitting as much as I did. I have to commend Doreen and her efforts to fill the gaps. She deserves kudos and much appreciation for her hard work and desire to keep our community together with a similar format. But it is not the same, not yet at least, and I sorely miss Mindless and the folks that peopled that site. It was great while it lasted. As Joni Mitchell once sang, "you don't know what you got 'til it's gone." I am hoping it is not a parking lot instead of a paradise.

warm regards,
SooZen

>Whoops! I got too excited and I hit the "enter" button
>too soon.
>
>letter, cont.
>
>"Mindless Chatter" and all its variations, is one
>thing, but when we were discussing art, politics,
>poetry, I loved it.
>
>Doreen and I are not going to agree on one thing: I am
>NOT a believer in "collaborative" efforts. I am
>definitely a Howard Roark in that respect. I think
>your 24 Poetry Session was fucking FANTASTIC. The
>result was AMAZING! I had absolutely no idea it was
>going to turn out that good ... but to be honest, I
>think that most of credit has to go to the editors --
>you, Jamelah and Caryn. You took the work of several
>incredibly talented poets and somehow sewed them
>together. The result was not a patchwork quilt of
>styles and feelings, but something a lot closer to a
>whole garment. That was amazing, what you did!
>
>But ... I think I MAY speak for everyone (even Doreen)
>when I say that we all want recognition in our own
>rights, not as part of a team. And we want to develop
>our styles in our OWN individual ways. I don't see how
>collaborating as part of a team effort is going to
>help me do that. It's going to help me learn how to
>conform to a team style, that's for sure, but I can't
>see how that's going to do anything except make my
>writing and my ideas more generic and less original.
>
>Instead of a collaborative effort, what I would prefer
>is a challenge. You set the rules, you give us the
>theme, then you challenge us to come up with our own,
>individual compositions under that theme. That way,
>each artist gets credit for his or her own work and it
>doesn't become an undistinguished single piece. Sounds
>a lot like school? OK, yeah, but aren't we here to
>hone our writing styles? I could think of all kinds of
>Litkicks collections originating from such challenges,
>and we'd each get a chance to showcase our own work in
>the process.
>
>I have no idea what you plan to do with the October
>thing, but from what I've read, it sounds an awful lot
>like another collaboration .. and who will know whose
>words are whose when the whole thing is completed?
>
>Now, as for contributing to your website: I snt you an
>email recently. Did you get it? I was asking if you
>were accepting article contributions. If you are, I
>have some ideas for Alternative Victorian and a
>couple of the other categories. Just let me know if
>that part is still open, and what the word limitations
>and other criteria are. You see, I not only want to
>participate, I think it's about time that I show my
>support in other ways, as well.
>
>Sorry, that I am just going on and on, but I think
>it's important that we all tell you exactly how we
>think and feel. For my part, there is no way I'm just
>going to keep my mind closed and give up on Litkicks.
>I think you had good reasons for wanting many of these
>changes, already. I have seen, and see in the future,
>many good things coming out of your ideas. But I can
>also see the drawbacks, and I wouldn't be human if I
>didn't want to tell you what they are.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Cat.
>
>P.S. I meant what I said about the structure of the
>message boards! Your computer genius is showing!

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