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Subject: Re: To せ①


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XOX
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Date Posted: 11:39:08 04/22/05 Fri
In reply to: Liberal for Cain 's message, "瓶情真情回應關啟文" on 13:06:40 04/21/05 Thu

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I didn't say that. I would think first hand experience is more reliable than second or third hand bias information, right?
I don't mean to 艘晦佷. But most of the Christians who are strongly anti-gay usually based their views on second hand information.
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Try not to put words into my mouth. Unlike those anti-gay Christians, I haven't labelled these people as evil. I would say most of these anti-gay Christians are irrational to say the least.
//扂珩庲肮俇律@珨c﹝筍暫?ㄞ斕珩硌堤婓價飭諒笢衄祥肮腔朸W鷜yㄛ褣耋?肮俶棑倜齔躂芠銘У鬤論睍拑黨遠楈茛褥襦ㄞ坻?珩岆腔?ㄛ衱崋N祥夔挲岆]衄む磁燴摯磁楊俶腔ˋ橑蘩N綺閨{Ⅸ侄鬤蝸窒腔嗣啋俶儸ˋ//
How many anti-gay Christians have distinguished the difference between homosexual who have homosexual sex and homosexuals who practice abstinence? If they have made that distinction, how could they be opposing a law that will protect homosexuals who practice abstinence?
Even Christians who theological interpretated that homosexual act is a sin, should know that they shouldn't target all homosexuals as sinners, as some of them may not have committed that sin at all. But I haven't heard of this type of discussion within Hong Kong Christian cycle. If I got that wrong, please explain to me how these Christians could allow the current ant-gay movenment that hasn't made such distinction to continue within Christian cycle.
How many of these anti-gay Christians are really willing to listen to the 肮祩 of their stories of being discriminated against, or worst, being mistreated because of their sexual orientation.
//扂珩俇幽J肮?奪諒祥肮砩肮俶晻皈?菀奻祥肫眷酸剺?肮俶棔舝疥眐閛鑣@岆扂眈?ь奠腔蕾騿//
Yes. You have made that quite clear, and I do appreciate that.
//辣鑫Й鵋硭魂奻祥ゃ?肮俶棔舝炸帟睍攽x奻堀笴疣椋о鵃疤盆噢芠閣J朣]衄ゃ?坴ㄞ坻?儸ˋ扂衄悵隱﹝//
That is probably from your personal mistrust of 肮祩 in general. Care to share where do your mistrust came from?
Care to know how the anti-gay Christians have built this mistrust within 肮祩 community?
The tactics the anti-gay have built mistrust. I have heard from an anti-gay scholars using really insulting words in describing 肮祩 . The incident was exposed and many 肮祩 have heard how these anti-gay really think about them. To rebuild this trust, we may have to do much more on both sides.
//稛源醱毞翋諒珨眻掀陔諒疑腕嗣ㄛ奧扂珨眻?朴黨累壨羌з翻怴褣耋?ㄞ斕眕橁疺л祰f毞翋諒嶂諺眑襟嬮鷜拑釋赽ㄛ硐岆秪橤翻朊眾觝蹺@瞰赽奧眒﹝//
I know you are talking about the Protestant Church. But the incident did happen at a Catholic Church. While the Protestant Christians used this incident to excuse themselves from being prejudice against non-heterosexuals, the Catholic Christians have used this incident to reflect on themselves and how they have handled non-heterosexuals in the community. I just say the way the Catholics handled this incident is better than the anti-gay Protestant Christians.

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