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Date Posted: 17:17:35 09/06/18 Thu
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Some more strories from the polls
In reply to: Knut Holt 's message, "INTERESTING POLLS WITH STORIES ABOUT EXAMINATIONS AND EXPERIIMENTATION ON KIDS AND ADULTT" on 18:01:04 03/27/18 Tue



Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.

If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm

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Boy, 6-12yo, Western Europe, yearly extensive endoscopic exams at school.

I am male. It happened in Western Europe, 200-2014. My parents just told me it was time to go to the dr and drove me to the exam that happened at room in the school that was preliminary prepared for the event.

It happened all children in my school of the age group. I was just taken, and didnt know how we were selected. I attended ordinary daytime school.


PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I got laxatives at home to clean out my stomach the day before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I was totally naked through alll the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair, but with devices to lift my legs onto. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices.

I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra, and in through my anus. I cannot remember i got any anesthesia.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function, with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.

They examined my head and neck, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area, my hip area, my arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, belly and my limbs.

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area. They explored my penis with their fingers.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They inspected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.

They took specimens from my throut with a tube. They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra and bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body.

I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

I was still fully naked after the main exam was over, I had my penis examined again.


COMMENTS

This is a standard procedure children go through in selected communities or schools in all parts of the World, and these oreals seem to be coordinated internationally. It is used to screen for diseases, for surveillance of kids in the society and for research.

Even though the ordeal involve very intrusive examinations, it is possible to perform it painless with modern equipment and only limited anesthesia.

Still heavy anesthesia or even full general anesthesia are often used on kids at these ordeals, mainly to hinder the kids and the parents about knowing and remembering details of what is done and tell it to others.

When many children in all age groups in a school go through the ordeal it is not economically feasible to apply advanced anestesia. Therefore it was not done in this case.

Still I think some anestesia was given, probably through the anus of the boy or through the air he breathed.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy, 16yo, USA, several experimental endoscopies and surgeries

I am male. It happened as early teen, 16yo, in North America, in USA, in year 2010 or later.

The procedure happened in a hospital. My stepdad took me to see a doctor who said I would be a perfect patient for some small procedures. I was picked up from a location with my stepdad by an ambulance. I was not often given resons for the procrdures,as I was only given orders .


OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURES DONE

I had an exam or surgery in my chest, in my stomach area, in my upper stomach with instruments through my mouth. I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. I had an exam or procedure through my anus.

I had several done over a 4 month period. The first one I had was a laparoscopic surgery of my belly, at least that's what I was told. My second one was on my heart. My third one was on my belly again and they told me I had my appendix taken out. The others were exams of my stomach and intestines and bladder. I also had brain surgery.

SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURES

I had pain, irritation or other problems in my nose, my mouth, my urethra or bladder and my anus or rectum. I had pain, irritation or gas in my colon or lower stomach. I had pain or irritation in my esophagus or upper stomach. My parents or others giving hints or remarks about unexpected symptoms or signs. Just pain and irritation of parts of my body.


THE ANESTHESIA GIVEN

I was given sedative medicines through my mouth. They gave me sedative medicines through my anus. I was given medication intravenously. They gave me gas through a mask. I was awake but drowsy from the anesthesia sometimes, but other times I was unconscious all the time. It depended on the procedure I had done for some I was put out others I was awake or half asleep


DETAILS I REMEMBER OR KNOW ABOUT THE PROCEDURES

I mainly remember what happened on my day of arrival and the day I got to go home and another day as well.

My first day I was taken to an exam room that had a gown hanging in it and was told to go behind a screen and take everything off. They put my clothes in a bag and looked them in a storage locker that I had to close with a thumb print.

After I had an exam plus my blood pressure taken my stepdad signed some forms and then I was brought to a room and told I had to shower and put on some clothes on the bed and then lie on it.

My last day I had to shower and put on a gown and then was examined again and my stepdad took me home in the ambulance.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE MAIN PROCEDURE

I don't really know where it was I was 16 at the time. It was pretty scary at times because I was alone and naked or in plastic hospital gowns a lot.

I had IV tubes in blood vessels and breathing tube only after I had my heart surgry .

I had catheter into my bladder a few times, they also pumped out my bladder a couple of times . I did not have tube in my anus after I woke up, but they did pump my stomach once. I had heart monitor for a day or two after each surgery. I don't really remember about other monitoring equipment. I remebered the procedures only when I was supposed .

COMMENTS

The boy was used in an experimental project, not for his own good in the first place, and he was probably also subjected to tiisue theft. It is possible that the stepfather got money for what was done.

Even though he does not say it, it is probable that the boy had a prehistory in a child protective setting and that the stepfather was a foster care father. Kids taken hold of by child protective agencies are frequently abused by projects connected to research institutions and great medical companies.

The stomach pumping he talks about was probably a cleaning procedure, or a intestinal test procedure, and so also the bladder pumping. Bladder and stomach pumping through the anus is frequently told about in these testamonials.

It is possible they found something that suggested je could benefit from brain surgery and heart surgery, but I strongly suspect that these also were experimental.
It is probably true that they took out his appendix, but they did it to collect tissue, not to treat the boy for any illness.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy, 10yo, North America, unexpected brain surgery with circumcission

I am male. It happened as preteen 10yo. The procedure happened in USA, in the years 2000-2009. Other kind of exam or procedure. I had brain surgery. They only told me I was going to have surgery and then when I got to the hospital they told me I was having surgery to make me a good boy.

My parents brought me. I was 10 years old and it happened at a children's hospital.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

They gave me gas through a mask. They gave me gas through a tube down my throut. This is usually not remembered because one gets other medication first. I was awake but drowsy from the anesthesia. They put a mask on me to put me to sleep for part of time
. The procedure happened in a hospital.


THINGS REMEMBERED FROM THE PROCEDURE

They also woke me up for part of it and I had a tube in one of my nostrils going down my throat. It was kind of Cool when they woke me up for the brain surgery because they talked to me during it.


SYMPTOMS AND OBSERVATIONS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

My underwear was messed up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my lower body. The time till I regained consciousness was at least twice before I woke up than expected. I was awake and asleep for parts of it but, when I woke up after the whole thing was done I had no underwear on I did woke up circumcised


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV tubes into blood vessels on me that i do not know what were for. I had a mask. Yes I had catheter, it was connected to a bag I had heart monitor, blood pressure cuff and a brain wave monitor They asked me how I was feeling and stufg. I only remember from the procedure when when they woke me up no.


COMMENTS

Based on the account, it does not seem that the boy was ill in any usual sense that gave reason for the surgery. It is possible he suffered from some kind of epilepsy that gives behavior symptoms. But it is also possible they performed a sort of psychiatric surgery to alter emotions and behavior that did not conform to narrow standards set by the society.

The circumcission was possibly done only to harvest the tissue in the foreskin, because this tissue is use for treatments of other patients, and for research, and is sold on the organ market. In either case, circumcision is seldom the best solution for any problem a boy himself may have.

Even the brain surgey and the circumcission, possibly was done for other reasons that the good of the boy himself, it did not feel very traumatic for the boy.

General anesthesia adminitered through a tube going through the nose is done for practical reasons sometimes. Also waking a pationt up during brain suregy to test where specific functionds are situated in the brain is also sometimes done, so these are noremal procedures.

It is possible that they did some alterntions also in his inner genital organs in order to modify behavior, and this may also be one of the reasons for circumcision.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



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Preteen boy, Eastern Europe, intrusive examinations and tissue sampling for research

I am male. It happened as preteen 10-12 The procedure happened in Eastern Europe including the whole of Russia, in the years 1980-1989. The procedure was done in Scientific Institut of Medicone.


SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had slime, bleeding, discharge or rest of lubrication coming out of my urethra. I had signs of needles having been stuck into my stomach or breast area.
When I woken up I had special feeling in mouth and neck.
I found a sign after surgery on my chest.
I woken up in room where a lots of boys like me were lying all full naked.


PREPARANTIONS INITIAL PROCEDURES AND ANESTHESIA

My parents got a message I have to go for special medical exam which takes few days. Based on the instructions I received through parents I had to be in school at 5:00pm, two hours earlier than usually. The only requirements was to bring some bag. At school there was around 10 other boys at the same age as I was. We were talked to strip totally down and put all clothes in bags. Then we kept the bags in locker rooms, our hands were restrained behind the back and were led to minibus. Despite it was for 8 passengers only there was 12 boys or something like that.

The minibus drove around 50 minutes, and I can see the information table on the gate where we entered the final place- it was Scientific Institut of Medicine. It takes totally at least two days maybe more. I was naked all the time - from the moment when I came into the school until we come back.
When we came to the place I participated on medical checkup: weighting, measuring blood pressure, listening of hearth, neurological exam, and also check of penis with sliding of my foreskin over the glances. Then I lied on exam table got a mask and they gave me gas through the mask.



OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURE

Based on the synptoms afterwards and arrangements I guess some of these things happened: I had dental work. I had an exam or surgery in my stomach area. I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. I had an exam or procedure through my anus. They performed orthopedic surgery in my hip region. They performed orthopedic surgery at my arms or shoulders. They performed orthopedic surgery at my legs.
Definitely I had a surgery in stomach area because I find marks after surgery oh there. Also they probably done some etching in my mouth as I had very special feeling in mouth and neck. I had woken up with catheter both from anus and penis. I suppose also some procedures in this area. Reason was an d still is not known.

I do not know what the main procedure was. I believe that it was some secret operation to collect information about youth men.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV with some water in the vacuum over me. I had ECG electrodes on my chest hand and legs. No. I did have catheter and I was told that I can pee without hesitation and the pee is coming to some machine. I also had catheter into my anus. I had typical ECG electrodes, my hearth activity was measured when woken up. They checked me quickly. When I was
Woken up I was not in the bed. I lied on the floor in room like gym with mattresses on floor. There was around 70 other boys as me with electrodes IVs and catheters. No.


COMMENTS

This was a grand scale project for collecting extensive medical data on young boys. Probably the same happened to young girls. They took out tissue and body fluid samples and inspected all body areas internally with endoscopes through all natural body openings and openings made for the purpose.

The boys were held under general anesthesia some days where all this was done.

It is possible that the area had a grand scale program also to adjust the anantomy, body functions, emotions and behavior to strict standard set by the society. Even though Eastern Europe is most associated by such programs in the public opinion, I have materials suggesting that the western region is equally eager to perfom such programs on kids.

It looks that they sampled tissue or made adjustments especially in the great joints, the urinary system and the digestive system of the boys. The symptoms and the support for body functions applied on the boys suggest this conclusion.

These type of projects are not only history. They continue in steadily more societies around the world even more than before.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com


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Boy, 16yo, NA, extensive internal exams and chastity effect experiments

I am male, it happened in North America, 2015 or later, when I was 13 and 16 years old. Was informed at school some days before the exam and a note was sent to parents.
The answers here are about the last exam when I was 16.

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. We went a special health center used for these type of exams om another part of the town. All 12 boys in my class went there for the exam by the bus from school. Also all other children in my school of the age group went there too.


ARRIVAL AND PRELIMINARY EXAMS

When arrived we had to undress in a sort of locker room and then sit down in a waiting room all completely naked.
I was totally naked through all the procedures to follow. Then we were called 3 at the time into different examination rooms. There a much standard exam was done weight and height

I had to sit and then lay on an examination table where the doctor listened to heart and lungs blood pressure was taken the doctor briefly examined my body and my genitals and last a urine and a blood sample was taken. This took maybe 15-20 minutes.

COMPUTERICED PSYCONEUROLOGICAL EXAM

After that I was taken into another room where I had to sit in a special chair and electrodes were put on my body. I was told I had to sit absolutely still so my arms and legs were strapped to the chair . Another doctor then asked me a lot of questions some rather weird questions I thought. This took about 30 minutes.


TAKEN TO ANOTHER PARTY OF THE BUILDING FOR MORE EXAMS

Then we had to wait in the waiting room until everyone was finished. After that I and 4 other boys were told we should be further examined and was taken to another part of the building still naked where the rest of the much more extended exam took place.


PHYSICAL CAPACITY TEST AND PREPRATIONS FOR THE FURTHER EXAMS

First they put electrodes on my body and I had to run on a threadmill with some kind of breathing mask over my mouth. After that I had to lay on a special examination table with a lot of devices around it.

There my arms and legs and body was strapped so I couldn't move and my legs were put in stirrups. Before I lay down on the table I got a pill that they told me was to keep me relaxed.

My stomach was cleaned out by a tube inserted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. on my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra and my anus. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening and my anus.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined my head or neck with an ultrasound device or something similar, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area with, my hip area and arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, stomach, shoulder area, hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my chest, my belly to record body functions and my limbs to record body functions.


They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


OVERVIEW OF INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube.They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope.They took specimens from my urethra with a tube.They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum.They took specimens from my anus with a tube.They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope.They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe.The doctor explored my anus with a finger. I can't remember any other internal examinations but I'm not totally sure what they did.


THE EXTENSIVE EXAMINATIONS AS EXPERIENCED

The internal and external examinations here was very thorough and took very long time. I must have been in that room for at least 4-5 hours maybe longer. I was told I was going to stay at the center until the next day. Many different instruments were used and inserted both in my urethra and my anus.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE MAIN EXAM

I was told I would be part of an experiment to see how chastity would effect the results both in sports and studies. After all the examinations were done I was fitted with a metal chastity device which was locked in place.

I was probably put to sleep for a while. When I woke up I had the following arrangements in addition to the chastity device: I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

After I woke up I was still on the table for maybe an hour before all the equipment was removed except the catheter and the chastity device. I and the other 4 boys then got to sleep together in a room with hospital beds.

The next morning I was again taken to the examination room for some more tests. After a few hours we all were taken back to the locker room to get dressed and were picked up and taken back to school.


EXPERIMENTS ABOUT THE EFFECT OF CHASTITY ON STUDIES AND SPORT RESULTS

I was told the chastity device would be on for a month and the catheter would be in place for at least a week. Once a week I revisited the center for check-ups.

The catheter was removed after 2 weeks but after the month they decided to extend the experiment so I got to wear it for a full year, check ups once a month and when it was removed and sometimes I could ejaculate for sperm tests but sometimes not.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended private boarding school. A private boarding school specialized in sports.


COMMENTS

The core part of this ordeal is an extensive internationally standardized procedure done on kids all over the world. Some communities use it on all kids at certain ages, others on kids with special need or as part of research projects. The procedures also seems to be coordinated internationally and the results are also used for surveillance of the population of kids around the world. The procedure is generally held secret for the common population, even though it seems to be fairly common.

The procrdure is often extended by additional elements for research or to correct bodily deviations found on the kid examined. In this case a computerized psyconeurological test was done and a chastity experiment was initiated.

It is highly probable that some anatomical changes also were done in the rectum, lower colon, bladder or urethra of this boy dyring the procedure. Most probably they made him more open in order to give more regular urination and bowel movements to ease sport performance and to make it more easy to go inside to examine him. From other testamonials this seems often to be done with kids attending sport schools.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Girl NA, 5-15, intrusive inspections, tissue theft and sexual abuse by research team

I am female. It happened form 2010 and forward in North America. It happened monthly from the time i was 5 to 15.


OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURES

I had an exam or surgery in my chest. I had an exam or surgery in my stomach area. I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. I had an exam or procedure through my vagina. I had an exam or procedure through my anus.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

The procedure occured at a health center. My father would say I had some condition that needed very special treatment. But when we were leaving these procedures my father always had a big envelope with money in it. My father would make me take a bath before, and he would inspect my body before we left. He drove me to the health center and we always went in a side entrance and down some stairs to the basement.

I was given sedative medicines through my mouth.


THE ORDEAL AS EXPERIENCED

I woke up occationally. The times I woke up during I was surrounded by men who did not have pants on. One time there was a man squeezing my breast and he was pushing a needle all the way through my breast. Another time my legs were being held open by many men and my legs were spread wider than I though possible.

Different men were inserting objects into my urethra, vagina and anus at the same time. Several times when I woke up I was having trouble breathing. My face was covered in what I now know was semen and my mouth was nearly full of it.

I remember the term 'sexual capacity testing' used but do not know what i means.


SYMPTOMS AND OBSERVATIONS AFTER THE PROCEDURES

They always were doing painful things to me. I had pain, irritation or other problems in my nose and mouth. I had pain, irritation or other problems in my urethra or bladder, in my vagina, in my anus or rectum. I had strange bruices around my body.

A tamoon or other object being left in my vagina. And in my anus. Strange persons appeared around me before and after the procedure than those you expected to perform the procedure. I had bruises and needle marks on my breasts. I also had bruises all over my legs and lower abdomen.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV with clear fluids. I had caheter into my bladder and a tube going into my anus. I had electrodes monitoring my heart. There would often be bandages on my breasts.

After I woke up many different doctors would come and look over all of my body. They were always surprised and angry when i woke up.


COMMENTS

The girl was used in some kind of research project with other purposes than her own good. During each session one ispected her trhough her pelvic openings. One also took out tissue from various places in her, either for research or to be sold on the international organ and tissue market.

It looks like she was used as an istruction objects for medical students or doctors under specialization that practized endosopic procedures on her, or she was used by people from several research teams.

She tells that several persons used her for intercource. These research teams often work very independently and only report back research results. Sometimes these research teams take the opportunity to abuse the kid for own sole gratification. This might be the case here.

The itercourse might be a part of some governmental research project, though. Of cource the sexual abuse is not less for that reason.

It might also be that she mistook endosopic procedures that were prctised on her as intercourse, but still this is abuse.

It is diffcult to decide what were the most serious abuses done on her, the tissue theft or the sexual ordels. neither of them should be ignored.

The conlusion is that some governmental project abused the girl badly for purposes not for her own good, to obtain secret results that governmental agencies use for planning own actions towards kids.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi,com


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By Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com

In Norway the child protective system snaps away children from thousand of families each year. For each child taken, so-called experts of various kind gain massive profit.

Children taken are also used as guinea pigs in medical projects,and one steals tissues and organs from them them and some are used as sex slaves.

This system has industrial dimensions in Norway. In reality children is a commercial merchandise in Norway, and the money is taken from the tax-payers and from the income from the oil fields of Norway.

This mafia does not only snap Norwegian children, but also foreign children visiting Norway with their parents.

As pretense for snapping children, they use a very strict normality scheme that is twisted to suite each case, when they want a child.

Besides this, Norway is an accident-prone country in all means. Many children taken by this system afterwards are hit strange accidents, and then declared brain-dead and their organs are taken.

Never visit Norway with your children, and never send your child to Norway to participate in arrangements, like Norway Cup or the like.

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