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Date Posted: 16:26:50 09/28/10 Tue
Author: cheng fatt (in different)
Subject: origin of mantis

Master lee kam wing,
i have train shaolin mantis under "tsui wing sing" for 15 years, i can't say certain things to him because i can't speak good Cantonese. After doing kung fu for such time i feel, that the origins of seven star mantis kung fu are irrespective of the style. In fact ahrat or lo han kung fu is both soft and hard. The idea of the big dipper representing seven sections of the body, was around long before mantis style and probably belonged to nomadic tribes for thousands of years. There are both eight methods and twelve methods in any true kung fu, there basis is in the foot steps. They are only hard and soft in respect to there combat application. when training practically one must use a circular movement incorporating both soft and hard types of energy. True Lohan kung fu resembles movements from the forms of mantis kungfu, but they flow in constant sequence and have no rigid basis. This means that the forms in mantis were derived from the sequences of the "eight shifting and twelve linking" combat strategies combined in such a way that the practiced form could be reversed at the end or begun on the either side. Strictly speaking they would have been memorized in blocks of four or eight, blending the three variations of twelve for both circular and straight interception.
The other issue is that the strategies of switching moves would be present in the forms construction but the close in chain strategy used in various close quarter combat situations could not be so easily implemented in these kinds of forms. So another type of form was developed to train this important aspect of combat. It is now been derived and is commonly practiced as "wing chun". If this is the case it is highly likely that forms were also developed to isolate switching movements, hence the "chow gar" southern mantis. Thus you have three kinds of form from the original lohan kung fu discipline, and thus varied three foundations for developing an army to be used in a versatile manner. And so the northern seven star mantis is a derived and developed method of training the longer sequence strategy involving combined triplicate steps with a single variable switch between triplicate move. Training men in such a way took a little more time than using the other "southern" or "wing chun" type strategies but was essential for a completely effective army.
However, the true essential methods of lohan kung fu could only be taught and developed by few in isolation. This would take a small lifetime to achieve. This is the true kung fu the ahrat fighting method, this fighting is no longer fighting then, it is becomes another discipline altogether. It has no style and no form, yet it resembles the many famous forms of kung fu that have existed simply because it is their origin.

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