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Re: MAAC has 2nd best SOS in Division I -- JoeStag, 10:00:54am 12/21/05 Wed, [1]
If I understand the computer formula, as the season moves into conference play, then High Majors will tend to rise in the ratings, meaning that our strong SOS will beneifit us, and hurt the Colonial's weaker OOC. In addition I think the Colonial has 8+ teams in the Bracket Buster, and I would not be surprised if we see many MAAV vs Colonial matchups in BB. So there is still opportunity to pass them. But we have to do our job and beat Cal State and BB.
BTW, Northeastern lost to Providence by 22, but beat Cal State Northridge by 21, so we might have a decent shot of beating Cal State who is ranked 132, is 5-3 and they beat USC at USC..
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Guy - I hope you are right -- JCM, 09:20:42pm 12/21/05 Wed, [1]
Guy, I hope you are right. I could argue that Iona should be ranked now. They have a win on the road over a top 25 team that is ahead of them in the rankings. They are undefeated. Why then isn't Iona ranked? For the same reason I fear Iona may not be ranked if they win Friday. Basketball snobs do the voting and politics play a huge role. Lets hope common sense overcomes basketball snobbery and politics and Iona gets what they deserve should they win......
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Re: Guy - I hope you are right -- Running Man, 09:53:05pm 12/21/05 Wed, [1]
Look at what happened to Fairfield's Mens Soccer team. Ranked 20th in the nation and could not get a bid to the NCAA Tourney. It's the MAAC, gentlemen. It's the MAAC!
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Re: Guy - I hope you are right -- AlwaysAStagFan, 09:59:08pm 12/21/05 Wed, [1]
the common thread that has been enunciated repeatedly is that the MAAC is not a "good league".....what does that mean???....certainly, the outsiders view it as "inferior" but also the inherent quality is....what....good...ok...not too good??? Iona is doing well now but a lot has to be provem...also....WHO cares at this early stage of the season?....are we so obsessive/compulsive that Dec ratings mean a darn?????...keep winning against all teams and the rankings will come and mean something....otherwise....forgetaboutit!!!
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Re: Guy - I hope you are right -- JoeStag, 07:58:25am 12/22/05 Thu, [1]
Iona's credentials are that they beat a top 25 Iowa State team, and did it on the road in convincing fashion. They also have won 3 away games which is always impressive. But I think Iowa state is the only team that Iona beat that has a winning record, so I think Iona has to beat more than one winning team before they will get serious attention for Top 25. The next 3 games are against winning teams...... Kentucky, Seton Hall and Fresno State.
If they beat Kentucky, they almost assuredly would be in Top 25.
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Re: Guy - I hope you are right -- GuyF, 01:40:02pm 12/22/05 Thu, [1]
I will challenge your comment re beating teams with better than .500 records. In the eyes of the committee, the RPI is just so much more important, and Iona has 4 wins vs top 100 teams and a fifth vs a top 130 team. I think the committee is more impressed with a team that's 0-3 but played OK vs Duke, Texas and UConn than a team that's 3-0 with wins over Morgan State, Prairie View and Howard.
We will learn more about Iona in these next 4 games (all against top 100 teams). Again, 3 of those 4 are on the road (Kentucky, Seton Hall, Fresno State), so even going 1-2 in these games wouldn't kill us, as long as we then come home and beat Manhattan. But yes, we need to beat Kentucky to be ranked.
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I think you DO have to care about what the computers and rankings are saying right now. -- GuyF, 01:34:26pm 12/22/05 Thu, [1]
And what they are saying is that the MAAC is having its best season in years in OOC play. Think about this: the league will likely finish 10 places--TEN places!--higher in terms of RPI/Sagarin ratings than a year ago. This means a lot in terms of where the MAAC champ is seeded in the NCAAs and if/how many MAAC teams get into the NIT.
The thing is that the ratings won't drop off much when we start playing each other, as OOC play is nearly over for many MAAC teams. Unless the MAAC teams bomb out in the remainder of the OOC, the league will likely say roughly where it is, or at the least stay in the top 15. This hasn't happened in like 10 years, I think, and it's a far cry from the past couple years. Big difference in the eyes of the NCAA (and NIT) when you're the champ of the, say, 12th best conference as opposed to the 22nd best conference.
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Re: Guy - I hope you are right -- GuyF, 01:30:09pm 12/22/05 Thu, [1]
You can't compare soccer and basketball--far different levels of media attention. People on the west coast likely knew zippo about Fairfield soccer. People on the west coast likely know about Iona hoops, because every day there's something in the media about them. (Note: this is not an exaggeration; I subscribe to a media service.)
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