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Date Posted: 16:06:31 04/09/09 Thu
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Sandy Hecla
's message, "Letty (Hatchet Grey) Durham m. James Thomas Howard" on 07:56:24 10/19/06 Thu
The following is all the info I have on Letty Durham (Hatchet Grey) Howard. I hope someone can find something on her and share it with me. I have also added info on Thomas Howard in hopes it will help in the search.
Letty (Hatchet Grey) Durham - Howard:
It's believed her name was Durham. Burial: in Kentucky. She was Full Blood Cherokee Indain she came from the Asheville, N.C.Area, it was part of the Cherokee Nation in North Carolina and the border of Tennessee, the War Trace trail went through Asheville and the Cherokee Nation and Hopewell Treaty on Keowee River was 28 Nov 1785.. She is registered with The Southeastern Band of Cherokee in NC, although I have yet to find where. Also, her grandson, Riley (Dood) Howard, son of William, filed a claim for Cherokee compensation in 1907. Riley made a claim for Cherokee compensation in 1907. He stated his grandmother was Cherokee and his grandfather was Thomas Howard. Refence #1843.
Her name could be Letita or Letica for her first name. She was full blood Cherokee Indian. According to information that Eulonda Snowden came across, Lettie's Cherokee Indian name was (Hatchet Grey) and she was from the North Carolina Reservation. So far, no one has papers to prove this fact.
Other Notes:
BIOGRAPHY: Native researchers do believe Letty to be full blood Cherokee because of her location and time of birth and because Durham is a very well known Indian name. There are many Durham's still living on Reservations today. They got the name from a Missionary who helped the Cherokee people. There was also a recent book published. It was about the Revolutionary War. It had a lot about Thomas Howard and a Cherokee Chief named Shyuica he fought with for the British. It leads you to believe that Thomas was well-liked by the Cherokee people. This info I got from NAAH kitty. She published a newsletter about Native Americans. I know Thomas was killed by Indians but it was probably the Shawnee Indians. malcolm broadhurst 10-1-2004
The Book. The Howards of Southeastern Kentucky: also mentions Chief Shyuica as a friend of the family.
Other Notes: Another legend around Letty states that she was half-Cherokee, the daughter of a missionary named Durham who ministered among the Indians in the 17th century Georgia Indian lands, who had taken a Cherokee Indian woman as his wife. Others say the Cherokee in the region took thier name from a missionary named Samuel Durham that was well liked in the area of the Cherokee peoples and that Letty was full blood Cherokee Indian. {Not definitely proven}.
NOTE: Riley Howard stated his grandmother was a Cherokee; but other Howard's stated Letty was only half-Cherokee. (Howards in Southeastern Kentucky by Frances Yeager Dunham, Pages 1-3. West Florida Printers, Panama City, FL 32401, Copyright 1979 Call Number: 929.2)
Notes: The following was posted by: Liinsing 12/15/2008 Ancestry.com
I am the grand daughter of Leck Bailey and Roseanna Howard, is decendent of James Howard. Thomas Howard (born about 1740 married Lettie Durham Howard. James Howard (born about Sep 12,1772) he was their son. Lettie was Born on The Cherokee Nation as Lettie Durham Hatchet Gray. You will find her listed on the cherokee roll as Lettie Durham not Hachett Gray. Could be listed as Lettie D Gray or Lettie Hatchet. I don't have anymore information than what I have been told. It is written Thomas was cherokee of scottish Irish roots and so was Lettie Durham. Definite Cherokee roots. Any one that can add to this can email me at Thanks Geneva Bailey
Roseanne Howard and sister Sarah Howard, each was to married Leck Bailey of Magoffin Kentucky. Belived he married sisters after one passed due to pox. Told father of James Howard was married to Lettie Durham (Hatchett Gray) born on the Cherokee Nation Ga.
I am told that we are relations to Lettie Durham Howard.
Any thing you can share will be appreciated
Geneva Ann Bailey
Found Rosanna Howard born March 5 1886 in Breathitt Co.,KY (don't know her father) She died March 15 1942 in Hippo, Magoffin Co.,KY Roseanna married Leck Bailey born Feb. 22 1880 in Magoffin Co.,KY Died: May 2 1973 McGruffy, OH They married 1908
Children: Dillard Dec 7 1914
Ellis C Mar. 23 1918
Creasey 1927
George William 1924
Lacy 1915
Fannie Jan 25 1912
Willard, Frank, Amos no dates
I found on Rootsweb father of Rosanna being a William Howard born April 1851 in KY married Leester(?) Mann born March 1860 in Breathitt Co.,KY They married Feb 27 1879
I am decended from Lettie Durham and Thomas Howard and am a first cousin of Geneva Bailey
My morther had blue/black hair and Grand Mother also. Needless to say I had the same hair with darkest brown eyes. Geneva's Dad was a bro to my Mom (Baileys) Any info that you can share would be appreciated. I will answer any questions you might have if I can. Mildred Stephens Pallasch in Ohio (born in Magoffin Co. Ky)
We were always told of the Native American heritage by both our parents, who are gone now.
More Notes:
Letty Durham was part of the Cherokee Nations in North Carolina. Her Indian name was Hatchet Grey
Letty may have been a one-half Cherokee Indian.
Subj: Re: Elizabeth Howard Date: 7/9/99 7:34:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: DDoolin To: LaurieMcK
Laurie,
My cousin and I found your line of info the most fascinating thing we have found in a long time. If you could (I know this may be asking too much) send me starting with Thomas and Letty's children all the info you have. It would help many. There are so many researching this line.
I have some more info on Letty. I have been in contact with many Native researchers. They all knew of Letty already. People have been trying to prove her origin for some time. Native researchers do believe Letty to be full blood Cherokee because of her location and time of birth and because Durham is a very well known Indian name.
There are many Durham's still living on Reservations today. They got the name from a Missionary who helped the Cherokee people.
There was also a recent book published (I forget the title). It was about the Revolutionary War. It had a lot about Thomas Howard and a Cherokee Chief named Shyuica he fought with for the British. It leads you to believe that Thomas was well-liked by the Cherokee people. This info I got from NAAH kitty. She published a newsletter about Native Americans. I know Thomas was killed by Indians but it was probably the Shawnee Indians. Take care, Amber
James Howard m. Letty:
Died in an Indian attack. Thomas Howard, Lettie's husband was killed probably the Shawnee Indians. Wilkes County was created in 1777 as one of the original 11 counties of Georgia. The original Wilkes (in some old records Wilks) County included all of the area now in Lincoln, Elbert, and Wilkes Counties; most of Oglethorpe,, Madison, Taliaferro and Warren Counties; half of Hart County, and parts of Clarke, Glascock, Greene Hancock , and McDuffie Counties, and of course present day Wilkes County. The County seat of Wilkes County is Washington.
THE HOWARDS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY From the book The Howards of Eastern Kentucky published by the Magoffin County Historical Society, 1985. We may have more appropriately said "The Howard Families of America" as this illustrious family has dispersed itself so widely. Descendants of the early Howard settlers of Eastern Kentucky can be found in every state of the union.
Eastern Kentucky has been noted for its large clanish families. The Howard family may well rank among the largest of these families. It could be noted that the Howard's were great believers in populating the land, as they averaged ten or more offspring and some are actually credited with fathering more than twenty-five children.
The origin of the Howard name has been a challenge to previous publications and writers have offered differing viewpoints. This will be very lightly touched upon in this volume. There is speculation that the Howards are of the royalty of England through a Sir Thomas Howard.
The migration route of the Howards after their appearance in the new world of America was much the same pattern of other Eastern Kentucky settlers. They came from the Maryland, Virginia, and Carolina coasts thence deep inland into the frontier lands of North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, and Georgia. They helped to tame the wilderness east of the great Cumberland barrier.
The Revolutionary Conflict came upon them in that locality, many of the Howard clan served or aided in the cause. These frontiersman and soldiers had probably seen or heard of the hunter's paradise that lay beyond the Cumberland range. Some land grants were obtained by having served in the Revolutionary War. As soon as it was considered safe to bring families into this new land, they began to spill across the great Cumberland through the same trails made by animals and traversed by the native red man in his search of game animals that he was so dependant on for survival.
After Kentucky County, Virginia was divided into three counties, the eastern section was known as Lincoln County, Kentucky. Lincoln County was divided into Floyd, Knox, and Clay counties with Howards showing in the very earliest census of each county. The 1810 census indicated the Howards had taken residence in these three counties. Counties were being formed from these counties---Harlan, Bell, Breathitt, Morgan, and finally Magoffin were formed. The Howards were instrumental in helping to formulate them and certainly to help populate them. Some of the Howards took a more southerly route of migration west through Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama. These Howard cousins may be included in this volume--they also helped to pioneer this great land.
Due to the atmosphere of the vast wilderness the Howards had to conquer in Eastern Kentucky, there was little written or recorded information kept. Much of the information in some of out courthouses has been lost or destroyed in time. Much of the heritage of this great family has been lost to time. The Howards did orally keep their heritage alive by word of mouth; thus forklore must be depended upon to a great extent in researching this family.
Previous publications have indicated that Thomas Howard married a Cherokee Indian and that two of his sons, Thomas and James, claimed in their pension applications that their father was killed by Indians. Riley Howard, son of William, made application for Cherokee compensation in 1907 claiming his grandmother was a Cherokee Indian and that his grandfather was Thomas Howard.
At least four of the Howard brothers claimed service in the Revolutionary Conflict, namely--Thomas, James, John, and Benjamin. Not all actually received a pension for said services. Moses Howard married in Floyd County, Kentucky to Ann Patrick and has been previously been listed as being a brother to the above mentioned children. Documents found in area courthouses place him as the son of Thomas and Francis Jackson Howard. Nearly all his descendants were residents of the Raccoon "Coon" Creek section of Magoffin County.
"I. THOMAS HOWARD married Francis Jackson and migrated to the part of Floyd County that later became Morgan County and later was to become Magoffin County in the area of Raccoon Creek. The major portion of the Howards in that vicinity can trace their lineage to this Thomas Howard who died in 1853 and is said to be buried at the Mouth of Coon Cemetery. Thomas received a Revolutionary War Pension."
"II. JAMES HOWARD married Elizabeth Green and migrated to Breathitt County where he died in 1857. Several of this family migrated to the Upper Licking River in Magoffin County, Kentucky. James received a Revolutionary War Pension."
"III. JOHN "WAR JACK" HOWARD married Mary Risner and his children were shown to have been born in Tennessee, Knox County, Kentucky and Harlan County, Kentucky. "War Jack" died in 1824 and Mary married second time to a (Jackson, which was probably a cousin of his, thru his mother) in 1827 in Harlan County, Kentucky and several of the Magoffin County Jacksons are descendants of this marriage."
"IV. BENJAMIN HOWARD married Phoebe Slusher and he died in 1849 in Harlan County, Kentucky. Some of his children were listed as having been born in Tennessee but the younger ones were born in Harlan County. Benjamin's Revolutionary War Pension was rejected."
1820 Census Floyd County, Kentucky listed as having 3 males under 10 1 male between 10 and 15 1 male between 16 and 26 1 male over 45 1 female under 10 1 female between10 and 16 1 female between 26 and 45.
THE HOWARDS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY
From the book The Howards of Eastern Kentucky published by the
Magoffin County Historical Society, 1985
Compiled on the website by
We may have more appropriately said "The Howard Families of America" as this illustrious family has dispersed itself so widely. Descendants of the early Howard settlers of Eastern Kentucky can be found in every state of the union.
Eastern Kentucky has been noted for its large clanish families. The Howard family may well rank among the largest of these families. It could be noted that the Howard's were great believers in populating the land, as they averaged ten or more offspring and some are actually credited with fathering more than twenty-five children.
The origin of the Howard name has been a challenge to previous publications and writers have offered differing viewpoints. This will be very lightly touched upon in this volume. There is speculation that the Howards are of the royalty of England through a Sir Thomas Howard.
The migration route of the Howards after their appearance in the new world of America was much the same pattern of other Eastern Kentucky settlers. They came from the Maryland, Virginia, and Carolina coasts thence deep inland into the frontier lands of North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, and Georgia. They helped to tame the wilderness east of the great Cumberland barrier.
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