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Date Posted: 10:13:54 04/13/06 Thu
Author: lakemnitz
Subject: Down on the Upside

I just purchased this CD for the second time (a bunch of mine were stolen)and I cannot believe I went this long without it. So many songs touch me right now......it is unbelievable!

I think I could listen to Zero Chance and Tighter and Tighter forever........

I remember someone saying on the CC forum (back in the old days)they thought this was the best SG CD ever....I am thinking I might have to agree at least for now anyway....

Makes me really miss the forum and CC.

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- chico781, 18:18:48 04/13/06 Thu [1]

That was my favorite cd for so long. I swear, I go through stages too. Right now BMF is my favorite SG cd. I think I'll listen to Down on the Upside tonight, though. I haven't listened to it in a really long while.

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- Robert, 18:44:38 04/13/06 Thu [1]

DOTU is probably the one I'd choose as a desert island SG album. It's not as metal as early SG, and not as majestic as Superunknown, but it shows everything that SG could do in top form :)

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- amadaun, 20:49:20 04/13/06 Thu [1]

I remember Chris saying that DOTU was more representative of the live SG sound than any other album.
It doesn't sound overthought like Superunknown did, ~even though I love it to bits as well.
I know Chris was unhappy with the production on Superunknown, he thought there were too many takes for some of the songs.
My DOTU album has the bonus disc with Bleed Together, Birth Ritual and the Moby remix of Dusty.

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- lakemnitz, 10:18:16 04/14/06 Fri [1]

It totally doesn't sound over thought....I can't think of the right words to describe it. It doesn't sound so rehearsed, and you can tell they were kinding at a turning point in their careers. I haven't been able to stop listening to it.

I don't know if anyone ever feels the same way but man when I listen to a few of those songs on there it just hits my soul deep down.

I got a bunch of downloads from someone and on one of them Chris says "Throw away your Led Zepplin albums cuz Soundgarden is here." Makes me laugh everytime I hear it.....

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[> [> Re: Down on the Upside -- wolfgangshine, 10:40:39 04/14/06 Fri [1]

Hey baby girl.
Your using again? Did you just fall off the wagon for a bit or are you hitting it hardcore? You can't afford to do that. I have my own struggles with things too, so I understand, it is just a pretty expensive deal, no matter how you look at it. And remember, just because you mess up a little doesn't mean you can't just dust yourself off an go on with your life. The weather is getting so nice, there has to be something out there for you to do. Damn, now I'm worried about you girl. Call me, 563 381-1179. Today, I'll be home.

DOTU is my favorite SG album, and that is a lot to say. Especially if your in a mood or depressed. Boot camp and switch opens, never the machine forever, zero chance, dusty, the whole thing just blends and mixes so well together, like one continuous feeling that changes colors as it develops. Now I'm gonna have to listen to it!
Take it easy Lake and call me, I've been wanting to talk to you for awhile now.
Jenna

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- light, 11:39:32 04/14/06 Fri [1]

"Throw away your Led Zepplin albums cuz Soundgarden is here."
and then "... Well throw away your Soundgarden records cause Kingdom Come (?) is here!"

~~between Flower and Everybody's Got Something to Hide
Seattle 9/5/88

Love that concert. Fopp sung as "Suck My Cock" is a highlight on that one.

But anyway, it's so cool you brought up the album Lake, and also Rob saying he'd choose it as his desert island SG. I've been on a big kick of playing it this week and I was thinking the same thing.

For years, I usually listened to SG in concert form, or my own mixed faves cds, so hearing the album whole sounded so fresh. At times it totally brought me back to '96 when I was in the phase of playing it constantly. Some songs will always be connected to other things though, from repeat playing in specific circumstances. I have literally played Pretty Noose, in studio and concert form, over a thousand times in the last decade, and I'm always still thrilled by the opening notes (and the whole song) every time it comes on. Blow up the Outside World too. Tighter, Boot Camp, even Ty Cobb will always be amongst my favorite songs too-- just beautiful in their own ways.

I still could say SU is the 'better' album, in terms of consistency, cohesion and majesty, (I love how it pulls your whole being into its depths-- it's the album that made me love Soundgarden), and BMF's over all rock energy might be more powerful, but DOTU has the songs that I feel are always personally relevant, expressing the bitter and the sweet of so many complex moods.

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- 23, 15:14:15 04/14/06 Fri [1]

Superunknown may have been my favorite for quite some time, but I find myself playing DOTU much more often. It really feels like it was ahead of its time. The songs on there feel much more musically advanced (if that even makes sense) than really anything else I'm hearing today. And for some reason, they sound even better to me now than they did back in 1997. It's almost like somehow my ears weren't really ready to fully appreciate the album until they experienced everything else they've heard in the past 8-9 years to prep them for it.

Not a bad song on the whole album, lyrically or musically.

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[> Re: Down on the Upside -- lakemnitz, 10:06:16 04/16/06 Sun [1]

Twan & Light-couldn't have said that better myself.....and I agree Twan when this first came out I really wasn't ready for it either; I was like well I like Pretty Noose, Blow up the Outside World and Burden In My Hand, but that was really about it.

I have been thinking about what it is about it that really gets me and it is just that the CD has so much emotion, angst and you can really hear the pain, but it just comes out so beautifully.

I love how in some of the songs they kind of go off and just jam a bit like Reach Down on TOTD. I feel like I am listening to SG for the first time again. It is so cool.....

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