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Date Posted: 12:31:11 03/06/06 Mon
Author: 23
Subject: Re: thanks for the new Nazi Youth
In reply to: GarlicSoul 's message, "thanks for the new Nazi Youth" on 11:13:17 03/03/06 Fri

I don't understand how you can say civil rights are different from human rights. And I don't understand how you are still trying to justify the position that we shouldn't talk to students in public schools about human rights.

So, what do you think we should tell students regarding the Civil War? WWII? The Revolutionary War and the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights? The Suffrage Movement?

Why is it so controversial to agree on a set of fundamental human rights and to support those in our schools? We have our students say the pledge of allegiance, which is filled with questionable, debatable statements, yet we have decided it is a value set that is important to pass on to our kids. So there is obviousy a precedent set here, the notion of supporting human rights (or values in general - schools teach sharing, kindness, etc.) in school curricula is far from a revolutionary idea.

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[> Re: thanks for the new Nazi Youth -- lump, 13:34:52 03/06/06 Mon [1]

Jesus! Justifying myself? No! I have a different opinion than you guys do.

The civil rights are actually laws. We have them listed and they are taught that way. Study and remember this. Discuss and question later when you have an adult mind. There is no official list of human rights. The 10 commandments are a list - if you're Christian. Otherwise, human rights are rather vague. What I consider human rights may or not be what you consider human rights. And a teacher or book publishers views might be different yet. I know the teachers union has an opinion too. Basic human rights are taught in the home...by the family. That's how I think it should be until the child grows up and goes to college - where it can be discussed and explored maturely. I'm just saying it's a vague subject - too vague for children that age.

How can we say we have fought for human rights by killing people? We've fought for voting rights, sure. We've fought and killed for things like taxes! In WWII, we really did fight for human rights. But we killed innocent people doing it! That's such a full circle argument, so full of hypocracy - that I think it should only be discussed by older kids.

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