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Date Posted: 15:23:21 03/06/06 Mon
Author: 23
Subject: Re: thanks for the new Nazi Youth
In reply to: GarlicSoul 's message, "thanks for the new Nazi Youth" on 11:13:17 03/03/06 Fri

"Like the right to life? ;)"

Well, that's obviously one that could not be agreed on.

I'm thinking Bill of Rights kinds of stuff. There is a list of basic human rights that could be agreed upon by the majority of people. I'm sure of it. Sure, there are going to be people on the far ends of the spectrum who wouldn't agree with some of the tenants, but there are people on the far ends of the spectrum who think aliens built the pyramids or the earth is 5000 years old. Just because there are those who disagree, doesn't mean it's something that can't be taught in schools.

lump -

"Jesus! Justifying myself? No! I have a different opinion than you guys do."

And is that the end of the story? From my perspective, we're having a debate. I try to base my opinions regarding these sorts of things on justifiable positions. If you simply feel something should be a certain way, do you honestly consider that reason enough for it to become policy? I don't. I don't expect our public schools to do things just because I want them to. I expect them to do the things that make the most sense, that can be best backed up by facts and evidence that support the reasons why. So I'm not quite so sure why I ruffled your feathers so much by expecting you to justify your opinion.

We're all friends here, right? I assume as much. I assume we're all coming from the good place when we have discussions like this. It doesn't upset me in the slightest that your opinion varies from mine. I was just hoping that you would have some reasoning that could back it up.

Lastly, I think you underestimate the mental maturity of a high school student. I think they rise to the level that is expected of them. It was only a few centuries ago that 16 and 17 year olds regularly got married or fought in wars or made major life decisions that 25 year olds have trouble making today. I think that we can increase the ability of our young people to think critically if we give them the practice to do so in our schools. I think it's in the best interest of the human race to do so. It's in their own best interests, that's for sure.

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**** -- amadaun, 18:21:11 03/06/06 Mon [1]

"my problem is that i think kids are taught a mixture of facts and opinions specifically tailored to engender patriotism"
You're on to it Chrys.

I also agree with Nathan, when he said that the intelligence of kids is often underestimated. And not only 16 and 17 year olds, but right down to kids 8 and up.

I think alot of people shy away from discussing sensitive topics with their kids, not just because they don't think they will understand, but because they don't really know how to deal with those things themselves.

And kids DO understand way more than adults give them credit for.

I think not only should they discuss controversial subjects, but they should also read about them, and see movies relating to them as well.
I rented a copy of Schindler's List last year, for the kids to check out. Also we saw Hotel Rwanda, which is amazing, [if you haven't seen it, you've missed out on something special.]

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