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Date Posted: 02:40:13 08/26/08 Tue
Author: TC
Subject: Re: Speaking of Diebold, McBush has it locked then, read this...
In reply to: lOUDCHAP 's message, "Re: Out of all the major networks, CNN has it a dead heat, even Fox has Obama ahead by four, the others by five." on 23:05:40 08/25/08 Mon

Ex-McCain campaign Republican and cyber-securty expert Stephen Spoonamore discloses in 8-part MSM-made-but-unaired interview that "Diebold machines are... designed to steal elections" and that the Republican Party has been "stealing elections"


From Voting Machines Can Never Be Trusted, Says GOP Computer Security Expert (includes 8-part video interview):

If a Democrat said what cyber-security expert Stephen Spoonamore is saying, he would be dismissed as a partisan conspiracy theorist

Regarding the 2000 elections, he says, "There is a very strong argument to be made that the 2000 election was electronically stolen, the hanging chads were just a distraction." [...]

Interviewer: And yet Diebold does not allow, for proprietary reasons, anyone to review the vote tabulation software?

Spoonamore: They let us work on their cash machines, but no, they won't let anybody see their software.

Interviewer: Any thoughts as to why?

Spoonamore: Because they're stealing elections.

Referring to the 2002 election results in Georgia, where Republican Saxby Chambliss defeated incumbent Senator Max Cleland, Spoon says, "If you look at the case of Saxby Chambliss, that's ridiculous. The man was not elected. He lost that election by five points. Max Cleland won. They flipped the votes, clear as day."

Spoonamore continues:

"I do not believe George Bush won [in 2004], I believe Kerry won. And I'm a member of the GOP. But I want to make it clear: we need to live in a place where your [a candidate's] election actually is reflected in the vote. I want my candidate to win, but if my candidate loses, I care a lot more about the process than I care about the victory." [...]

Spoon discusses the infamous Georgia patch from the 2002 election. "I've personally reviewed a number of pieces of code from Diebold. It's garbage. Some of the code is awful. I reviewed the patch that they put in Georgia, 2002, that many of them claimed is a clock function. It's not a clock function, it's a comparator function. … If it were me and I were to guess what that code is, it's a vote flipping code. It's not a clock function, that I know."

Interviewer: So this is not a partisan issue?

Spoonamore: It shouldn't be. This is a fascist issue. People who don't want voting and want fascist control but have people think they're voting. I mean, people forget the fact there was voting in Hitler's Germany. Guess what? He won with 90% of the vote all the time. There was voting in Saddam's Iraq. And guess what? Saddam won the vote all the time. Well, did they win? Was that actually the will of the voter? Was that the way the votes were even cast?... Do you want to have a system in place where there is a permanent background of electronic voting fraud of 2-and-a-half percent? That means you have to win an election by a minimum of 3% to know that you've won? I don't. Paper ballots, please. That's the only thing that can be secure.

Interviewer: [Regarding the Harri Hursti hack] Diebold has come back every time and said, "Well, you know, that hack can't happen."

Spoonamore: They're lying. They're lying. Diebold is lying.

"I think they [the Diebold machines] are brilliantly designed. They're designed to steal elections. … There are back doors in the tabulations machines, which is what the US-CERT warning is about. There's a backdoor communication that allows secondary computers to talk to the actual tabulators electronically from a distance." Spoon goes on to describe some of the technical details of electronic voting machine election fraud.

"We have had numerous elections in this country now in which -- where you use Diebold Election System machines -- that what happens with the vote is way off, five, ten, as much as twelve percent from the exit polling and the actual survey. These statistical numbers are impossible.

And the problem is Americans do not want to believe that we have people stealing our elections. And they must come to the realization there are people in this country who want to steal elections, and we must stop them"

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