Just to weigh into this .. can I ask a question that may or may not clarify things for me..being in Australia does mean we have different laws so I might not have it right anyway. If the dancer is not getting paid because the show is not playing, but they are not free to find alternate employ during this 'standdown period' does that mean that they are getting a percentage of the show takings? I mean that either they are on wages (weekly pay for work) or salary (weekly pay regardless of hours) or commission based (so they get paid only if they perform) or do they have annual leave etc to draw upon which would also be paid (or is that only in Aus?).. I get the whole insurance thing, just can't understand why they are not getting paid just because MF is off sick?..whatever happened to 'the show must go on'? -- For the love of the dance

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Date Posted: Thu, Feb 15 2007, 6:31:08
Author: Lee in Darwin
Subject: Just to weigh into this .. can I ask a question that may or may not clarify things for me..being in Australia does mean we have different laws so I might not have it right anyway. If the dancer is not getting paid because the show is not playing, but they are not free to find alternate employ during this 'standdown period' does that mean that they are getting a percentage of the show takings? I mean that either they are on wages (weekly pay for work) or salary (weekly pay regardless of hours) or commission based (so they get paid only if they perform) or do they have annual leave etc to draw upon which would also be paid (or is that only in Aus?).. I get the whole insurance thing, just can't understand why they are not getting paid just because MF is off sick?..whatever happened to 'the show must go on'?
In reply to: "ooops i did it again!" 's message, "Now that we understand that you are supposedly in the know then please tell these dancers what policies are available to them and what brokers are providing them. While everyone else working in the insurance game, including brokers, are saying their is no such coverage available, and therefore they don't know what you do, tell who is selling these "new" products!" on Thu, Feb 15 2007, 0:53:58

In Australia we have 'workplace agreements' which some more unscrupulous employers tried to use to stiff the individual ... thats where Industrial Relations lawyers have come into their own... however, there still remains the onus on the person signing the contract to make sure it is above board etc...whats the latin saying for 'buyer beware'??

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I thought I made it clear that you need to ask a Lloyds Underwriter to write a policy. Lloyds of London are listed. Try contacting them -- enough, Thu, Feb 15 2007, 21:05:38 [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> insurance is not my question..that is something that personally I feel everyone should have anyway... you insure your house & contents, your car etc why not insure your income too, so for me that is a no brainer anyway. I just can't understand what sort of pay schedule these dancers are on. I am sure that whichever way you look at it they are not as aware of their circumstances as we would all hope, however, they did sign a contract and they should have been aware of what that contract meant. If they didn't understand it they should have had a lawyer or someone read it for them before they signed it. Most countries as far as I am aware would have a free legal service of some sort that probably would have loved to have had a look at the contract before they signed. Even university / college law professors would look at it for them. Whilst I feel very sorry for the dancers involved, surely all of them can't have mis-understood the possibility of no show = no pay? -- Lee in Darwin, Fri, Feb 16 2007, 0:25:06 [1]

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