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Date Posted: 09:26:28 04/14/08 Mon
Author: Esmerelda
Subject: Agree with that
In reply to:
anyasbuttmonkey
's message, "Lee was wearing an incredibly gay sweater, for one..." on 00:44:24 04/14/08 Mon
Not the sweater thing, I just thought wardrobe had messed up and given him a jumper meant for Helo. I can just see them now "Lee? Is that the tiny little guy or the really big guy? Uh, we'll go with the big guy, I'm sure it'll be fine"
I agree the final cylon is 7, if I had a farm, I'd bet it on it. Which means I must now draw you to the fact said cylon is between 6 and 8. Lucky sod.
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Heh. Even I'm jealous of that one... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 11:59:30 04/14/08 Mon [1]
I honestly do think that, despite my convoluted (sp?) theories that the final cylon is either Socrata, Ellen or Caroline, it's going to turn out to be a man. Kara's dad currently tops my list, because who the hell would see that coming, and Ron Moore said that there's "no way you can guess who the final cylon is without knowing where this season is going", storyline-wise.
I'm also intrigued by Kara's line about Earth, how she could swear she's been there before. Maybe she has, because she's a Seraph who was once a member of the thirteenth tribe before dying and elevating to heaven, but who got kicked out because of her meddling in human affairs, and sent back to being human.
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Well, you know what I think re the final cylon -- Esmerelda, 15:24:00 04/14/08 Mon [1]
Dramatically, after the reveal of Tigh and Cheif, they have to up the ante. It has to be one of the five reg cast members who aren't already cylons and you know which one I think it is. :)
Although I'm half expecting the final cylon to be a bit of a damp squib (such as Kara's Dad, who we've never seen, and therefore don't care about)as I'm not convinced they didn't pick Tigh and Cheif for the shock factor and didn't think about the consequences of that in regards to revealing the final cylon.
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Did you ever read that interview with Jane Espenson just after she started on the show? -- anyasbuttmonkey, 16:00:58 04/14/08 Mon [1]
She said that she was amazed, coming from the cult shows she's worked on in the past, that they actually had a plan for the show from start to finish, and that they had a whiteboard in the writer's room with the relevant details on it. I agree with you in that I think they pulled the final four out of their asses (mainly because they wouldn't have known from the start that Tory's a Cylon because she was only created when Paul Campbell got written out), but I think that the major story points they've had planned since the get go, including Kara (although I think that came during season 2, after they realised they had a painting on her apartment wall that looked like it could be something, retroactive foreshadowing is genius sometimes).
My feeling is that I believe Ron when he says the final Cylon is *not* one of the 5 human regulars, purely because - like you say - the shock of Chief and Tigh was huge. I think the reveal of the final Cylon has to be someone that has a huge *emotional* impact on several characters, hence why I'm leaning towards the Angst Twins parents (aside from Bill). What better kicker than having Lee or Kara be the real first Cybrid? And that could go some way to explaining her return from the dead (and maybe even a return for Zac!)
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I'm deeply sceptical about -- Esmerelda, 16:12:02 04/14/08 Mon [1]
Writers saying 'There's a plan! Really!', at most I think there may be a vague They Reach Earth (or don't) and character x, y and Z dies, plan but even that'll be subject to change depending on circumstances.
I think that revealling Tigh and Cheif as cylons so early was a mistake on the writers part to be honest, because (and of course, other's milliege varies)unless the final cylon is one of the human 5, the reveal for me is going to be an anti-climax.
I think if it's a parent, it's more likly to be Caroline Adama as that effects Adama, Lee and even Roslin. Kara's parent only effects her, and is a bit redundant as she already has a cylon husband.
To be honest, I'm actually totally expecting the final cylon to be something stupid and to be rolling my eyes. That way I can only be pleasantly surprised if it's not as lame as Tiny Tim.
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A lot of people I've noticed on the interwebs have been espousing Gaeta... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 16:16:16 04/14/08 Mon [1]
Mainly because of the "something" Baltar knows about him that Gaeta's willing to kill him to stop from getting out, and the fact that he's been instrumental in solving many of the clues on the roadmap to Earth. Personally, while it makes sense in a "that all fits" way, it makes for zero drama, because who really cares all that much about Gaeta?
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Exactly -- Esmerelda, 16:21:21 04/14/08 Mon [1]
The same goes for Dee, even though it technically fufills 'Adama is a cylon.
You know, I'm quite decided the final cylon should be Lee and Adama's known all along. I don't doubt though I'll be bitterly disappointed when it's actually Seelix. :P
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Have you seen the casting stuff for the Caprica spinoff characters? -- anyasbuttmonkey, 16:35:18 04/14/08 Mon [1]
It sounds like we weren't far off with our spec that weekend that Ron Moore's planning a five-series, twenty-year storyline that will all make sense retroactively ;)
I'm a little concerned that they're including a human-form Cylon (unless they're putting a girl's voice on a Centurion!), but I'll wait to see exactly how it all comes about. On the flipside, we may have an explanation for the Cylon's monotheistic religion...
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I didn't read it in any great detail -- Esmerelda, 16:39:33 04/14/08 Mon [1]
but couldn't help thinking our pitch was better.
I was a bit 'oh jeez' about what I did read, which is one of the reasons I'm so nervous about this season.
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Re: A lot of people I've noticed on the interwebs have been espousing Gaeta... -- Chani, 18:57:53 04/14/08 Mon [1]
Gaeta didn't seem to hear the song at the end of the season 3...Neither did Dualla.
I tell you the final Cylon was in the fleet but not on the Galactica so his sudden moment of self-awareness got hidden to our eyes. It is TOM ZAREK !
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