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Date Posted: 11:59:12 12/29/08 Mon
Author: hmm...
Subject: Re: Obama
In reply to: Roger 's message, "Re: Obama" on 11:22:46 12/29/08 Mon

It has been dawning on me for the past year that I cannot change minds. It seems more and more apparent that I cannot help anyone with the experience I had or warn them of upcoming events. It seems more and more likely that events will unfold exactly as predicted and that it is all part of God's plan.

Roger: seeing your comments about Obama and your unwillingness to even contemplate what I am saying only makes it plainer to me that I am talking to a wall.

So this will likely be my last post as I am getting tired. But if you think Obama is going to be better in any way, you are so completely owned by the system that there's little hope of me affecting your opinion.

All I can tell you is that everything that will happen over the next several years are part of God's plan (remember God says "I create evil") and these final days are the final hurrah of evil and will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. It is my belief that these times are about breaking down the structures of material wealth we have created and as a result have lost our way. God will take everything you hold dear in order to force you to seek and *know* God rather than believe in mere words and theories. There is a battle to own your mind and you and most everyone else are walking straight into their trap.

I have been saving stories on Obama as they come up with the pathetically naive hope that I might be able to wake people up. Here's what I've complied in just the past 6 mos:

Obama rehires advisor who wants to invade Israel
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=17653">http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=17653</a>

House Democrat says Obama should keep Bush intelligence chiefs
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/House_Democrat_says_Obama_should_keep_1210.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/House_Democrat_says_Obama_should_keep_1210.html</a>

Obama will nuke Iran if Israel nuked, official says
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_will_nuke_Iran_if_Israel_1211.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_will_nuke_Iran_if_Israel_1211.html</a>

Do 'fearmongering' Dems want Obama to set up Gitmo 2.0?
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Greenwald_Groups_fear_mongering_to_keep_1212.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Greenwald_Groups_fear_mongering_to_keep_1212.html</a>

from Ron Paul:
The Congressman warned that an Obama presidency offers no alternative to the economic policies that have led the U.S. and the world to the brink of economic meltdown. Paul Described the kind of change Obama offers as:

“Just change in faces and change in party labels. Both parties represent the same special interests, they both have to represent big business. Obama’s supposed to be a man of the people, well he collected $750 million, more money than anybody else ever collected. Wall Street supported him, the media supported him, all the big money supported him, so his change is not going to be much change at all. He’s not talking about changing monetary policy, the Federal Reserve or getting rid of the income tax or bringing our troops home.”
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/13297/Ron_Paul__Secret_plan_for_a_Global_Central_Bank/">http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/13297/Ron_Paul__Secret_plan_for_a_Global_Central_Bank/</a>

Obama advisers: Bush era war criminals will walk
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_admin_wont_prosecure_Bush_war_1117.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_admin_wont_prosecure_Bush_war_1117.html</a>

John Dean: 'Serious consequences' if Obama doesn't prosecute torture
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/John_Dean_Serious_consequences_for_not_1219.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/John_Dean_Serious_consequences_for_not_1219.html</a>

Will Obama continue failed drug war policies?
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/17/will-obama-continue.html">http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/17/will-obama-continue.html</a>

'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location -
Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see 'usurper' in Oval Office
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931">http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931</a>

More than sixty groups call for revocation of presidential secrecy directive
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/More_than_sixty_groups_call_for_1112.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/More_than_sixty_groups_call_for_1112.html</a>

Obama's chief of staff choice favors compulsory universal service
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m11d6-Obamas-chief-of-staff-choice-favors-compulsory-universal-service">http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m11d6-Obamas-chief-of-staff-choice-favors-compulsory-universal-service</a>

EXCLUSIVE: Agenda disappears from Obama Web site
Over the weekend President-elect Barack Obama scrubbed Change.gov, his transition Web site, deleting most of what had been a massive agenda copied directly from his campaign Web site.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/11/exclusive-obama-deletes-agenda-from-transition-web/">http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/11/exclusive-obama-deletes-agenda-from-transition-web/</a>

Obama dogged by claims of birth certificate forgery
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_dogged_by_claims_of_birth_0822.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_dogged_by_claims_of_birth_0822.html</a>

'Obama the Antichrist?' CNN actually asks
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CNN_Since_McCain_ad_Obama_Antichrist_0815.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CNN_Since_McCain_ad_Obama_Antichrist_0815.html</a>

Slate editor calls Obama speech style 'fascistic'
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Slate_editor_calls_Obama_speech_style_0204.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Slate_editor_calls_Obama_speech_style_0204.html</a>

Is Senator Obama 'tarnished' by a 'slumlord connection'?
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Is_Senator_Obama_tarnished_by_slumlord_0127.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Is_Senator_Obama_tarnished_by_slumlord_0127.html</a>

Reason Magazine: A Few Questions for Barack Obama:
- You continue to support ethanol subsidies despite the fact that corn-based ethanol is inefficient, environmentally unfriendly, and part of the cause of rising food prices. Even liberal New York Times columnist Paul Krugman calls ethanol "[b]ad for the economy, bad for consumers, bad for the planet." Perhaps your support stems from you representing a corn producing state. But is supporting a wasteful policy to win votes "change we can believe in," or is it a good sign that you're just another politician?

— In a speech to Cuban-Americans in Miami, you called the Cuban trade embargo "an important inducement for change," a 180-degree shift from your prior position.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28/radley-balko-a-few-q.html">http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28/radley-balko-a-few-q.html</a>

Activist: Obama defense of FISA support a 'stiff arm' to constitution:
"It's a stiff arm to the people that care about the Constitution," said Mike Stark, a blogger and liberal activist who started a group on Obama's social networking page to urge him to fix the FISA bill.

"It's left a question in a lot of people's mind about how committed he really is to change," Stark told RAW STORY.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Activist_Obama_defense_of_FISA_support_0703.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Activist_Obama_defense_of_FISA_support_0703.html</a>

Anti-gay pastor who compared gays with pedophiles chosen to deliver invocation at Obama's inauguration
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/obamawarren121708.html">http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/obamawarren121708.html</a>

Obama to expand Bush's faith based programs
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_to_expand_Bushs_faith_based_0701.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_to_expand_Bushs_faith_based_0701.html</a>

Obama's support for the FISA "compromise"
If anyone expects President Obama to roll back Bush's illegally-gained dictator powers, they are smoking rope.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/24/obamas-support-for-t.html">http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/24/obamas-support-for-t.html</a>

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/21/obama/index.html">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/21/obama/index.html</a>

Ralph Nader on Barack Obama: “It is Quite Clear He is a Corporate Candidate from A to Z”
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/18/ralph_nader_on_barack_obama_it">http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/18/ralph_nader_on_barack_obama_it</a>

Wal-Mart Defender To Direct Obama's Economic Policy
Appointment of Jason Furman Immediately Meets With Skepticism
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-taps-wal-mart-defender-as-director/79665/">http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-taps-wal-mart-defender-as-director/79665/</a>

Obama Adviser Calls for Troops To Stay in Iraq Through 2010
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010">http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010</a>

NPR host thinks GOP 'agenda' is to help Obama win Dem nom
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Juan_Williams_calls_out_Fox_analysts_0210.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Juan_Williams_calls_out_Fox_analysts_0210.html</a>

Obama and our coming constitutional crisis
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80435">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80435</a>

Obama’s "Coalition of the Willing" Against Iran?
Continuity rather than Change in US Foreign Policy
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11058">http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11058</a>

Change? Obama Inner Circle Filled With Bilderbergers
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html">http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html</a>

.................

OBAMA'S CONNECTION WITH ROD BLAGJEVICH

Aide: Ax 'misspoke' about Obama meeting with Blagojevich about vacant senate seat
An Obama aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, took back David Axelrod's remark last month that Barack Obama and Rod Blagojevich had spoken recently.
"What the president-elect said today is correct, David Axelrod misspoke," the aide said.

Obama said today the men had not spoken.
An open question: When they last spoke.

UPDATE: Axelrod says the same in a statement:
I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Aide_Ax_misspoke.html">http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Aide_Ax_misspoke.html</a>

President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, refused to take questions from reporters this morning about whether he was the Obama “advisor” named in the criminal complaint against Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1326788,rahm-emanuel-blagojevich-obama-121108.article">http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1326788,rahm-emanuel-blagojevich-obama-121108.article</a>

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