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Date Posted: 04:14:47 10/31/20 Sat
Author: David Meier
Subject: Re: thanks, I got your store, here it is
In reply to: David Meier 's message, "Re: thanks, I got your store, here it is" on 04:07:16 10/31/20 Sat

>



Sorry Dave,

I got confused. Peter got an offer for a free exam. Not you.
I read too much these days.

But anyhow. An exam could be a good thing.

Have a nice weekend

David.
>Hi Dave,
>
>I regret that you felt so bad with your exam. I was
>seven years old and didn‘t care people around me. Sure
>after waking up I felt some pain but I had IVs so I
>guess the staff had given me some pain-killers.
>
>To the clinic I was brought by an ambulance car. Laid
>down and strapped. The put some gas into my nostrils.
>
>I stayed a week their for a tonsil surgeon. But I got
>a big exam. And a lot of ice cream every day.
>
>You wrote: "... my health involved...“
>
>Great! So your exam made sense!
>
>Please read my mail to Peter above. A single-mom‘s son
>I know will get an exam in a children hospital as soon
>as Corona will be under control and the clinic has the
>time and staff for it.
>
>I support her. And another friend of her who is a
>single-mom too.
>
>It is a pitty you have bad feelings about this exam.
>Again I say think twice. You got an offer for free.
>Maybe you have got younger cousins and you can talk to
>them to join. I am sure your doc will organize some
>more free ordeals.
>
>Have a nice weekend
>
>David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>Hi David,
>>
>>Graduated exams are the worst experiences of my life.
>>I've never had so much humiliation and pain. Even
>>though my health has improved, I wouldn't recommend
>>anyone undergoing an examination. I'm still terrified
>>of what they did to me when I was put to sleep and how
>>many people were involved. I don't know how many of my
>>exams were photographed and filmed. I guess I'll never
>>know how many people looked at them and where the
>>photographs and films ended up. I certainly wouldn't
>>allow my children to be examined the same way I am.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>I read your report. My opinion is "well done“. It was
>>>a really really big ordeal. Much more what I got when
>>>I was seven years old. Abd you got so many
>follow-ups.
>>>I didn‘t because of moving to another town with my
>>mom.
>>>
>>>So they checked every inch of your body. And the best
>>>thing was your circumcision.
>>>
>>>How did you feel after these ordeals? What do you
>>>think about them now three years later? Will you send
>>>your kids to get their ordeal one day too?
>>>
>>>Did your life change after these surgeons?
>>>
>>>I hope so. You did things wrong before. But I think
>>>such an ordeal could clean the slate.
>>>
>>>Did your family life change?
>>>
>>>I hope you do all good now. And all of you stay out
>of
>>>Corona.
>>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>David Meier
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>Thank you for processing. Given the amount of damage
>>>>we caused, we faced not only being expelled from
>>>>school, but also several years in prison. That's why
>>>>the parents agreed to take part in this program,
>>which
>>>>was organised by the police together with the
>welfare
>>>>authorities. The siblings, especially the sisters,
>>>>have not forgiven us for what they have had to do to
>>>>our will repeatedly and to this day we have to go to
>>>>their homes to help them in very humiliating
>>>>conditions. I changed my behaviour greatly, I
>>improved
>>>>my grades at school and I would never do anything
>>like
>>>>this again. In a few of these examinations, they
>>found
>>>>various diseases at an early stage and early
>>treatment
>>>>prevented further complications. However, it does
>not
>>>>change the fact that the experience of undergoing
>>>>examinations is among the worst we have experienced
>>to
>>>>date.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>>Boy, 16,17, 18yo, Australia, extensive intimate
>>>>>procedures after being caught by police
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a male. I was a teenager. My exact age when
>>this
>>>>>occured. 16 17 18. I took the exam at 16 and 18
>with
>>>>>my parents and siblings, at 17 with only my sisters
>>>>>and brothers, in the years 2015 2016 2017, In
>>>>>Eustralia or Oceania. Institution where it took
>>>place.
>>>>>state military hospital, specialist clinic.
>>>>>
>>>>>First time we were taken away by police second and
>>>>>third time by parents. Doctors, psychologists and
>>>>>medical students examined us. Also present were
>>>police
>>>>>and social worker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OVERVIEW OF THE ORDEAL
>>>>>
>>>>>They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an
>>>>>orthopedic exam. They examined the organs inside
>my
>>>>>chest. They examined my organs inside my stomach.
>>>>>
>>>>>They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal
>>>>>zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic
>>>>>zones.
>>>>>
>>>>>They inserted instruments into my mouth. They
>>>inserted
>>>>>instruments into my urinary opening, introduced a
>>>>>large catheter without anaesthesia, it was very
>>>>>painful,
>>>>>
>>>>>They inserted instruments into my rectal opening.
>>>they
>>>>>were opening my rectum a lot it was very painful
>>>>>
>>>>>They performed a neurologic exam with electrodes on
>>>my
>>>>>body. They performed an electrocardiogram of my
>>>heart.
>>>>>They performed a exam with electrodes on my head.
>>>They
>>>>>performed a full functional test of my breathing
>>>heart
>>>>>and blood circulation under workload.
>>>>>
>>>>>They performed a psychological exam. They made
>>>>>interrogations about my social relations and my
>>daily
>>>>>life.
>>>>>
>>>>>Completely naked I ran jumped did squats in front
>of
>>>>>many people until exhaustion.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was shaved all over my body and hair after being
>>>>>examined and put to sleep on the operating table.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>ANESTHESIA AND ARRANGEMENTS
>>>>>
>>>>>I was given sadative or pain-killing medicines
>>>through
>>>>>my mouths. I was given anesthesia into the
>>>>>blood-stream. I was totally put to sleep. I was
>>>>>totally naked. My positions during the exam:
>>standing
>>>>>leaning , on his back, on his stomach, on his
>fours
>>>>>
>>>>>Any strange equipment or arrangements in the exam
>>>>>room? strong lighting several cameras lots of
>>>>gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any comments about the arrangements? I was treated
>>>>>very severely I had to follow orders quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP
>>>>>
>>>>>We were given 2-4 pills and after medical history,
>>we
>>>>>waited naked with our hands behind our heads Then
>>>they
>>>>>measured and photographed all parts of our bodies,
>>>>>bent and measured all joints Then they did detailed
>>>>>medical and psychological examination including
>>>>>genital and rectum
>>>>>
>>>>>Then we must do exercise until exhausted. Then they
>>>>>shaved showered and disinfected us and put us to
>>>>>sleep on the operating table.
>>>>>
>>>>>I woke up after 4 hours with my feet in stirrups. I
>>>>>had catheters in my penis and rectum.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was then examined by several doctors and had both
>>>>>catheters and electrodes removed.
>>>>>
>>>>>My whole body ached, I was circumcised, I had
>>>puncture
>>>>>wounds on my stomach and chest.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you think was the reason for this exam?
>>>>>Punishing an entire family for my shoplifting,
>>>>>directing behaviour, humiliation .
>>>>>
>>>>>What is your opinion about this experience? I have
>>>>>been punished many times by parents and siblings
>for
>>>>>what they have had to experience.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>URINARY EXAM
>>>>>
>>>>>They used a caheter or tube to take specimens from
>>my
>>>>>urinary system. it was very painful. It was part of
>>>>>the punishment. I suspect they examined my urinary
>>or
>>>>>genital system under anesthesia but I do not
>>>>remember.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>GENITAL EXAM
>>>>>
>>>>>They palpated my outar male genitals and testicles.
>>>>>They slid down my foreskin and spread my urinary
>>>>>opening. They collected a semen specimen with
>>>>>instruments inserted into my penis. They collected
>a
>>>>>semen specimen by means of prostate massage through
>>>my
>>>>>rectum. They palpated my prostate with a finger
>into
>>>>>my rectum. They let me masturbate to collect a
>semen
>>>>>specimen.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've had several injections in my penis and
>>>testicles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>PROCEDYRE THROUGHT THE RECTUM
>>>>>
>>>>>They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my
>>>>>rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an
>>inserted
>>>>>finger. They looked in through my rectum with a
>>>rigid
>>>>>optical scope. I think they did a rectal or bowel
>>>exam
>>>>>when I was under anesthesia but they did not tell
>>>me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>SYMPTOMS AFTER THE ORDEAL
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a strange pain or irritation down my throat
>>>>>after the exam as if I had been secretly intubated.
>>I
>>>>>had a bad breath and sore throat for a week I had
>>>>>strange pain or irritation in my rectal zone and
>>>>>stomach as if my rectum or bowel had been secretly
>>>>>examioned. I had gases coming out of me my belly
>was
>>>>>bloated my rectum was very sore
>>>>>
>>>>>I had strange irritation in my urethra and bladder
>>>>>zone as if this body part had been secretly
>>examined.
>>>>>very painful urination, sensitive penis.
>>>>>
>>>>>They catheterized me without any good purrpse as I
>>>>>could see. introducing a large catheter without
>>>>>anaesthesia to be a great pain .
>>>>>
>>>>>They put me totally to sleep even though I was told
>>>>>only to have a simple exam. I fell asleep on the
>>>>>operating table after them putting the anaesthetic
>>>>>into a vein.
>>>>>
>>>>>Someone came and performed a psychological test
>even
>>>>>though I was called in for quite another thing. the
>>>>>test took a long time and I was naked with my hands
>>>>>behind my head and feet in stirrups
>>>>>
>>>>>Someone strange person came and performed a social
>>>>>interrogation even though I was called in for quite
>>>>>another reason. The test took a long time and I was
>>>>>naked with my hands behind my head and feet in
>>>>>stirrups
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>FOLLOW-UPS
>>>>>
>>>>>Also these other weird things happened: please tell
>>>>>more: The next day the whole family reviewed the
>>>>>course of the tests, showed photographs and
>screened
>>>>>film. The exam took a very long time. Rehearsals
>>>>>lasted all day.
>>>>>
>>>>>The exam resulted in this diagnosis: altered my
>>>>>urinary system and bowel New exams as follow up
>>>please
>>>>>specify: every quarter of a school doctor's
>>>>>appointment
>>>>>
>>>>>Medication as follow-up please specify:
>>suppositories
>>>>>and ointment. Regularly measuring the temperature
>in
>>>>>the penis and rectum Psychological or social
>>>>>counceling as follow up.
>>>>>
>>>>>Quarterly examination naked in stirrups and hands
>>>>>behind head and electrodes all over body. Regular
>>>>>social services visits with personal searches of
>>>>>everyone at home.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>COMMENTS
>>>>>
>>>>>A team which is a part of a worldwide program used
>>>the
>>>>>boy and his family for medical and social
>>>surveillance
>>>>>for medical research and to steal body tissue. All
>>>>>the punctures and circumcision had the purpose of
>>>>>tissue theft. The arrangements and symptoms tell
>>that
>>>>>they inspected all of his lower digestive system
>and
>>>>>urinary system internally by endoscopic procedures,
>>>in
>>>>>addition to what he remembers directly.
>>>>>
>>>>>These teams are not controlled by the aithorities
>in
>>>>>the various country but they offer certain cervices
>>>to
>>>>>national and local authorities as a compensation
>for
>>>>>using kids and families.
>>>>>
>>>>>One service they offered was to use the boy and
>>>family
>>>>>as training objects for medical personel.
>>>>>
>>>>>The team and the school health service also
>adjusted
>>>>>his genitals lower digestive system and urinary
>>>system
>>>>>stepwise by several events with the purpose of
>>>>>conforming behavior and bodily functions to a
>strict
>>>>>standard set by the authorities.
>>>>>
>>>>>These teams seem to work according to a theory that
>>>>>certain properties inside the pelvic organs lead to
>>>>>behavior not approved by the authorities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also the social services used the boy and family
>for
>>>>>own personal economic gain and for the economic
>gain
>>>>>of cooperating profesionals, using the money of
>>>>>society.
>>>>>
>>>>>But without doubt these teams and the services
>>taking
>>>>>hold of the boy and family also used the
>opportunity
>>>>>to gratify own sadistic and sexual tendencies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Furthermore, the treatment of the boy and his
>family
>>>>>was to make them panicked, so that they would not
>>>dare
>>>>>otherwise than behaving in a way according to
>strict
>>>>>standards of the society.
>>>>>
>>>>>If the laws in Australia are of a kind expected
>from
>>>a
>>>>>democratic society, what this team and the social
>>>>>cervices did with the boy and family is by itself
>>>>>highly criminal. But unfortunately, this kind of
>>>>>behavior from such public services is not unusual.

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