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Emma

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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:04pm
In reply to: David 's message, "Hohoho" on 04/18/02 9:29pm

>"1. If God exists, then he exists necessarily.
>2. It is possible for God to exist.
>If these two premises are correct, then the statement
>�God necessarily exists,� must be true."
>
>Hmm so then back to George.
>
>1. If George exists he exists necessarily (because the
>definition of george is "a being named george who, if
>he exists, exists necessarily")
>2. It is possible for George to exist.
>
>George necessarily exists.
>
>Therefore anything that, if it exists, would exist
>necessarily, exists.
>
>>>It�s the greatest possible from of existence because
>>> the existence is possible in all possible worlds.
>
>So by greatest do you mean "best" or "biggest"? The
>problem is you'll have to show that anything other
>than an abstract concept can exist in all possible
>universes.
>
>>>Quite correct. The easiest way I can think of to
>show
>>>that is to provide examples. An example of a
>>>necessary truth would be 2 + 2 = 4 or the law of
>>>noncontradiction (this law states that for any
>>>specified proposition p, it is impossible for both p
>>>and not p to be true; e.g. it is impossible for me
>to
>>>exist and to not exist at the same time). Both of
>these
>>>things are true in all possible worlds. There isn't
>any
>>>possible world in which these things don't hold true.
>
>Playing devils advocate: so what makes us think these
>laws are true in all possible worlds?

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