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Subject: Show me some ID research that's currently (or recently) being done.

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Duane
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Date Posted: 10/ 4/04 2:30pm
In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "Not quite you haven't." on 10/ 3/04 1:32pm

Wade:

Seriously... I would like to see some examples (other than Darwin's Black Box) of ID research. I've looked, and can't find any.

Now, if that's because I've only been looking in peer-reviewed journals, I'm willing to give ID the benefit of the doubt for the purposes of this particular conversation, and say that maybe it's not getting published because peer-reviewers are baised and stubborn.

So, please send me links to, or hints on how to find some record of any research done that supports ID. Even if it's a website that just outlines some research program, and presents some results - it doesn't have to be peer-reviewed, or even complete! Works in progress ar OK too.

I just would like to see SOMEthing that demonstrates that ID proponents are currently doing research and finding new things that support their theory.

A few examples would go a long way towards supporting your argument, Wade, because I've made the claim several times that ID proponents don't do ANY actual research - that all they do is write fluff - reinterpretations of existing, explained facts, and editorials and opinion pieces.

I'd love it if you could prove me wrong, because if you could, I'd feel like we could at least discuss ID on its scientific merits (if there are any) instead of having to dismiss it due to complete lack of supporting evidence and complete lack of current research.

Duane

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Okay. Wade A. Tisthammer 10/31/04 1:30pm

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>Wade: > >Seriously... I would like to see some examples (other >than Darwin's Black Box) of ID research. I've looked, >and can't find any. > >Now, if that's because I've only been looking in >peer-reviewed journals, I'm willing to give ID the >benefit of the doubt for the purposes of this >particular conversation, and say that maybe it's not >getting published because peer-reviewers are baised >and stubborn. > >So, please send me links to, or hints on how to find >some record of any research done that supports ID. >Even if it's a website that just outlines some >research program, and presents some results - it >doesn't have to be peer-reviewed, or even complete! >Works in progress ar OK too. > >I just would like to see SOMEthing that demonstrates >that ID proponents are currently doing research and >finding new things that support their theory. > >A few examples would go a long way towards supporting >your argument, Wade, because I've made the claim >several times that ID proponents don't do ANY actual >research - that all they do is write fluff - >reinterpretations of existing, explained facts, and >editorials and opinion pieces. > >I'd love it if you could prove me wrong, because if >you could, I'd feel like we could at least discuss ID >on its scientific merits (if there are any) instead of >having to dismiss it due to complete lack of >supporting evidence and complete lack of current >research. > >Duane

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