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Subject: Yep.


Author:
Wade A. Tisthammer
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Date Posted: 09/26/03 11:52pm
In reply to: Josh Thames 's message, "seeing is believing?" on 09/25/03 10:59pm

>>There will be no Rapture in 2003. I bet you $50!
>>
>>Yeah, I could theoretically be wrong, but I won't
>>believe it until I see it. But when I see it, then
>>I'll believe it (I hope that goes for the rest of you
>>fellow skeptics out there too).
>>
>>I've heard of the allegedly seeing the future in the
>>Psalms stuff before. Basically the claim is that you
>>add 1900 to the Psalm number and you get the year the
>>Psalm is supposed to describe, though this one seems
>>to be a little different (Psalm 102 should have been
>>2002, perhaps you add 1901 instead?). It's all crap
>>if you ask me though, at least that is what it sounds
>>like. I suppose I should check it out though in all
>>fairness. Has anyone contacted Michael?
>
>I disagree with several points that I've read in this
>whole line --- Jesus said he will come like a thief in
>the night, we cannot know when the rapture occurs ---
>only the Father knows that, not even the angels
>know(Matthew 24:36). And I do not agree with your
>statement that you will believe it when you see it ---
>that is not biblical either ---

Believe me when I say that, when I see it, I will believe it. Under what conditions I will accept certain beliefs is not addressed in the Bible.


> Hebrews 11 tells us
>that faith is the evidence of things NOT seen ---

I agree that faith is the evidence of things unseen.

>faith is believing, and THEN seeing according to the
>Lord's Word, not the other way around.

No, according to YOUR word. What you have just said does not logically follow from Hebrews 11:1. It is possible to see and then later have faith (confer the apostle Thomas, the Jewish man Paul formerly known as Saul, and also James).

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