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Subject: Abort.

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Damoclese

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Date Posted: 11/10/03 5:23pm
In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "At least it's not Jessica Lynch this time." on 11/10/03 11:53am

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>The President of the United States is free to use his
>religious beliefs in his reasoning. If his religious
>beliefs tell him that murder is unethical, then so be
>it.

I'm pretty sure I didn't argue whether or not he is free to use it. I argued whether or not his argument should rest on religious belief alone and whether this is acceptable reason to make laws.

>You are referring to the banning of late term partial
>abortions? I would not call that a fiasco. I
>actually think it's among the (few?) things Bush has
>done right.

That's not really surprising since you guys are ostensibily of the same religion.

>
>The belief that human life has intrinsic worth and
>should not be murdered; that sounds barbaric to you?
>If so, welcome back to the Middle Ages.

No. That's not the problem, although as long as Bush was willing to justify it religiously, I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with it. After all, he's free to use it as he pleases.

>
>The bottom line is this: Bush believes late-term
>abortions involve the death of a human person. The
>religious aspect (God says murder is wrong) is
>practically irrelevant because I think even you agree
>that people should not be murdered, and so this is
>not where the main point of dispute lies. The
>main disputable point here is where human
>personhood begins.

Actually, that isn't the point I was making at all. That's an entirely seperate point in fact. I was driving at the point that Bush signed a law using only as justification HIS RELIGION. As long as you are okay with that no matter what religion or philosophy a president holds, I don't have an argument with you.

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Subject	Author	Date
Not yet...	Wade A. Tisthammer	11/11/03 4:49pm
Damoclese -- eject., 11/11/03 7:25pm