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Subject: He don't know why you say goodbye, He says hello.

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Biff

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Date Posted: 12/13/01 3:58pm
In reply to: ozboy 's message, "I'm an individual! ... you can't fool me!" on 12/12/01 8:46am

>>>> I can dig that.... to an extent. Society helps but
>the final decision is yours.

Right, and when someone commits a crime, society has a responsibility to punish that person. If we neglect that, we're just as guilty as they are.

>>So, if God holds mankind collectively responsible for
>>its actions, then that is his nature. It is not for us
>>to decide that it is unjust. We are not the supreme
>>beings, he is. We are to understand his nature and
>>conform to it. That doesn't sound unpalatable to me,
>>for if he created everything, he should know how
>>operates best.
>
>>>> what is the point of creating us and then wiping
>us all out

There is no point. That's why he offers us a way out.

> for no reason!

For no reason? The reason has been stated time and time again. If you don't love some one, it's unfair to be forced to spend your life with them, no?

... I just don't get it! Why
>will I go to hell?? ....it's very unfair!

In spite of every evil deed you or I may do in our lifetimes, we don't have to go to hell, that's what's unfair.

>What do you mean "It is not for us to decide that it
>is unjust". Well if you can't decide! ... I'll tell
>ya!! ... it's extremely bloody unjust!

Like I said in my response to Don, do you understand your computer better than the person who designed it? Can you understand justice better than the one who created the whole concept in the first place?

>To create us, test us by giving us life and the send
>us to hell forever if we don't believe in him shows he
>has a nasty nature!!! ..... I mean ... it's just a
>rotten thing to do!
>
>Why didn't he just make us all christian in the first
>place and send us straight to heaven and not bother
>making the planet...

Or why didn't he put dog chokers around all of our necks and just give them a yank every time we step out of line? It's our freedom to choose that makes us so valuable to him in the first place. Think about any meaningful relationship you've ever had. Would that relationship be anywhere near as rewarding or fulfilling if the other person had not the ability to reject you? Of course not.

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