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Subject: no proof

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Date Posted: 08/ 6/03 4:21pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "The REAL question" on 04/23/02 12:08pm

There is no more proof that the Bible is the word of god than there is proof that the Koran and the Book of Mormon are divine. As a Christian I would learn the inconsistencies and flaws of other sects of Christianity like Mormonisim and the Jehovah's Wittnesses to be able to wittness to these people. In my studies I realized that my own religion, Charasmatic Christianity was resting on just as shaky ground as the other religions I was studying. It had just as many failed prophecies and inconsistencies as the other religions. I became an Atheist. Now my mind is free and clear of religious bondage. I am a free moral agent governd by the laws of the land and not a capricious deity.

>I've often been amazed by the lengths I've seen
>Christians go to to justify a belief that simply
>doesn't make sense. There are intricate defenses of
>all sorts of mundane points, but they neglect the
>central point upon which all others rest. So here in
>this thread, I thought I would ask this question in
>hopes that some Christian can come through and answer
>this one very simple tenet upon which all other
>beliefs they hold rest:
>
>What evidence is there that the Bible is the word of
>God?
>
>I will take brief pause here and address the issue of
>prophecy before it even becomes an issue. Prophecy
>without a specific time frame is useless. People can
>simply say that it hasn't happened yet, and chances
>are if you give a vague enough prophecy over time
>something will come close to resembling it.
>
>I am willing to accept prophecy as evidence provided
>that it is specific and detailed--the kind of
>prophecy that I would expect from nothing less than a
>deity, and not some two bit psychic, or perceptive
>observer.
>
>I'm willing to accept the Bible is the word of God
>provided someone can present cogent positive evidence
>(for the claim that one single book alone is the word
>of God is an extraordinary claim that requires
>extraordinary evidence) for that claim.
>
>I am not willing to accept vague prophecy of
>Nostradamus varieties that don't have time frames. I'm
>also not willing to accept the Bible is the word of
>God based on correct geography, or perhaps pieces of
>correct history. (think Julius Caesar by Shakespeare
>and you'll understand why) Lastly, I'm not willing to
>accept the claim simply because lots of people believe
>in it. Is it possible all those people could believe
>in a lie? Fundamental Christians should know that
>answer if they are the are the only ones with truth
>and all those other religions with numerous followers
>devoutly believe they have truth.
>
>The gauntlet is thrown, and a well intentioned
>Christian can get the opportunity to lead a poor
>blinded soul to Christianity. I've even delineated
>what I would and wouldn't accept as proof. How much
>easier could it be?
>
>Damoclese

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