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Date Posted: 10/12/15 6:47:09am Mon
Author: Steve
Subject: Re: The Ivy League
In reply to: The Future 's message, "The Ivy League" on 10/11/15 10:59:46pm Sun

>This New York Times Article about the Ivies having
>effectively gone scholarship in sports is from 2011.
>That puts them years ahead of the Patriot League in
>terms of giving scholarships to football players.
>
> >href="http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/12/23/sports/finan
>cial-aid-changes-game-as-sports-teams-in-ivies-rise.htm
>l?referer=&_r=0">http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/12/23/s
>ports/financial-aid-changes-game-as-sports-teams-in-ivi
>es-rise.html?referer=&_r=0
>
>Harvard is 25-1 over the past three seasons.
>
>Yale beat Army last year.
>
>No one has come within 21 points of an undefeated
>Dartmouth.
>
>Princeton is also undefeated and will most likely
>finish third or fourth in the league. They beat
>Lafayette and Lehigh by a combined score of 92-33.
>
>Ivy league football is the best its been in decades
>and will continue to improve. it is scholarship
>football with more scholarships than any schools other
>than the service academies.
>
>Colgate has 45 scholarship players. None of them are
>seniors. Two of the best seniors in a thin senior
>class are out with injuries. Kids get better and
>stronger they are the older they are and the longer
>they play.
>
>The Ivies got a jump on scholarships. Fordham got a
>jump on scholarships. The NEC has had scholarships for
>years. The CAA has had scholarships for decades.
>Colgate has had scholarships for 2.5 years and is
>playing catch up. I don't think there would be the
>level of frustration if all of the FCS games Colgate
>has played hadn't been winnable--which means the
>current team can win.
>
>Colgate has a strong tradition of starting slowly and
>finishing with championships. That can happen here.
>These aren't guys getting beaten up or too slow to
>play with other teams. The QB is really coming into
>his own. There are very good receivers and a huge TE
>who presents a big problem anytime he is thrown the
>ball while moving forward. The defense doesn't give up
>huge plays. The pieces are there to win a lot of
>games. They just have to do it.


Thank you, The Future, for some context. It's the context
that moves discussions about the past and the future forward. With it I wonder where certain people get the idea
that they assert of "Colgate should win 80%" of Ivy games.
Maybe they don't know what they believe but just want to believe it? Strange that.

No, I am not a coach or player but I am pretty confident I have shown my true colors by remaining consistent with my support of the team. I don't contradict myself and I am happy to slough off suggestions made to the contrary which, incidentally, haven't been corroborated with that context bug bear.

I like the idea expressed above "Colgate has a strong tradition of starting slowly and finishing with championships. That can happen here." I agree and would hasten to add that having taken down HC we have a full sleight of PL games to fight for.

If you have ever managed a bunch of people in an enterprise you know that remaining positive and resourceful are core requirements for success. It applies to an athletics program as well. I mean, who wants to work for or with a moaner?

Go 'gate!

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: The Ivy League -- agatefan, 10/12/15 7:56:38am Mon

>If you have ever managed a bunch of people in an
>enterprise you know that remaining positive and
>resourceful are core requirements for success. It
>applies to an athletics program as well. I mean, who
>wants to work for or with a moaner?
>
>Go 'gate!

sorry! I did not realize that you were managing the team!!! good luck!
and 4 - 2 in the PL = a 5 & 6 record ANOTHER losing season
I nor I doubt anyone else posting is hoping for that result or worse but instead a winning record and a PL tiltle....so far not looking very promosing....hope they win out but.....


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Ivy League -- Steve, 10/12/15 8:33:49am Mon

>>If you have ever managed a bunch of people in an
>>enterprise you know that remaining positive and
>>resourceful are core requirements for success. It
>>applies to an athletics program as well. I mean, who
>>wants to work for or with a moaner?
>>
>>Go 'gate!
>
>sorry! I did not realize that you were managing the
>team!!! good luck!
>and 4 - 2 in the PL = a 5 & 6 record ANOTHER losing
>season
>I nor I doubt anyone else posting is hoping for that
>result or worse but instead a winning record and a PL
>tiltle....so far not looking very promosing....hope
>they win out but.....


You remain somewhat confused about who manages the football team. It's the coaching staff, not me. I was only talking about team building, management skills, and the attitude that leaders use to drive and sustain successful teams.

Never mind. Maybe you should unclutter your agenda and focus on what's really important to you.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Ivy League -- agatefan, 10/12/15 8:51:30am Mon


>
>You remain somewhat confused about who manages the
>football team. It's the coaching staff, not me. I was
>only talking about team building, management skills,
>and the attitude that leaders use to drive and sustain
>successful teams.
>
>Never mind. Maybe you should unclutter your agenda and
>focus on what's really important to you.
>
>Go 'gate!

actually I'm rather clear on this: since neither you or I manage the team your point is pointless
but, thanks for the advice


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Ivy League -- gatefan, 10/12/15 9:11:36am Mon


Game Stats

COLGATE

PRIN



First Downs
21 35

Total Offensive Yards
Gate Tigers
436 556

Passing Yards
318 311

Rushing Yards
118 245

Princeton had their top 2 RB's out


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