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Date Posted: 11/15/15 11:42:21am Sun
Author: TheGreenCoat
Subject: Re: Hockey Truths
In reply to: Zappa 's message, "Re: Hockey Truths" on 11/15/15 8:44:44am Sun

>>now 4-7 with wins over RIT (twice, although we were
>>lucky to win game #2), Mercyhurst and lowly but
>>improving Princeton...sad to see our program (with
>>some help from Jesse Winchester) bring in a talented
>>Class of '16, then follow up with three subpar years
>>of recruits (a habit that seems to repeat itself with
>>some regularity at my alma mater)...is it complacency
>>or incompetence? Frankly, I don't care, but it is sad
>>to see a talented class play their final year with
>>scant support from the classes of '17, '18 and '19...I
>>know we've lost two quality players...fine, virtually
>>all DI programs face this problem from time to
>>time...we give the appearance of complacency, grab one
>>or two good recruiting classes, then fill a third or
>>fourth line forward position, grab a 5th
>>defenseman...other than that wonderful year of
>>2013-14, the varsity hockey team's 20-year record
>>against top 10 DI programs is not only substandard,
>>it's awful...I believe DV is a top tier coach, but our
>>recruiting efforts are at best inconsistent, and, to
>>be honest, inadequate...we seem to be the only DI
>>program in the country that believes the United States
>>Hockey League is not an attractive recruiting
>>area...we must know something the Providence, Yale,
>>Union and Quinnipiac don't know...I wonder who is
>>right...
>
>Oh please...miss Greencoat...NOT!!!
glad to see I remain popular...have been off the USCHO site for two years+ (computer issues; no conspiracy) and actually stayed away because I am superstitious and we HAD a good two-year run...sorry guys, I'm just not a "happy talker"...again, if my points are not valid, especially regarding the rather mediocre talent men's hockey has assembled post-Class of '16, then let's engage in a good debate...I will say (yes, TheGreenCoat is going to show some optimism here) that the CURRENT list of potential attendees is looking pretty good (and here the new facility is helping)...to beat a dead horse, I've always believed that DV can coach, but too much turnover at the assistant coach level and, frankly, some bad recruiting choices are going to make this year and next pretty tough...I pray I'm wrong

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[> [> [> Re: Hockey Truths -- gate, 11/15/15 7:28:08pm Sun

Welcome a different point of view or opinion though it's not always appreciated on here and ruffles insecure feathers. Miss seeing you on USCHO.

People questioning Johnson's exit; same thing happened to Wagner. Can't blame them for aiming higher when you see the team's performance.

Seems like year after year Colgate has the smallest recruiting classes on Heisenberg in temrs of numbers and talent?


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[> [> [> [> Re: Hockey Truths -- Zappa, 11/16/15 8:28:25am Mon

>Welcome a different point of view or opinion though
>it's not always appreciated on here and ruffles
>insecure feathers. Miss seeing you on USCHO.
>
>People questioning Johnson's exit; same thing happened
>to Wagner. Can't blame them for aiming higher when
>you see the team's performance.
>
>Seems like year after year Colgate has the smallest
>recruiting classes on Heisenberg in temrs of numbers
>and talent?

Not anymore, last I looked we have NINE for next year and thirteen total. Included is a freshman in High School for 2019


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey Truths -- TheGreenCoat, 11/16/15 10:33:46am Mon

>>Welcome a different point of view or opinion though
>>it's not always appreciated on here and ruffles
>>insecure feathers. Miss seeing you on USCHO.
>>
>>People questioning Johnson's exit; same thing happened
>>to Wagner. Can't blame them for aiming higher when
>>you see the team's performance.
>>
>>Seems like year after year Colgate has the smallest
>>recruiting classes on Heisenberg in temrs of numbers
>>and talent?
>
>Not anymore, last I looked we have NINE for next year
>and thirteen total. Included is a freshman in High
>School for 2019
would agree Zappa - and I have mentioned this at some point - our recruiting efforts seem to be improving, receiving commitments out 2-3 years (here the new facility is a factor)...and some stability in our assistant coaches will help...you see, I'm not always negative, although I suspect the next 1 2/3 years are going to be tough...


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