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Date Posted: 10/11/15 3:53:56pm Sun
Author: get em 'gate
Subject: Re: Princeton dropping us from the schedule because we were beating them too often
In reply to: Steve 's message, "Re: Princeton dropping us from the schedule because we were beating them too often" on 10/11/15 3:00:13pm Sun

>
>'gate80,
>
>Is that public information? Please quote your source
>and name the administrator involved.
>
>I mean Princeton is on a roll this year and they
>defeated Colgate football and 2 other PL teams
>soundly. Maybe I can write this decision-maker a
>letter of complaint?
>n
>Go 'gate!

With due deference to all, there seems to be much beating around the bush.
Adopting the Patriot League as its standard of excellence sets Gate's sites to the bottom the barrel.However this may be protested,the PL is a second rate league mostly fiiled with second rate teamms No one respects the PL.Gate played Yale with two games experience to none for Yale but was still the underdog.Weren't scholarships supposed to make a real difference?.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Princeton dropping us from the schedule because we were beating them too often -- Steve, 10/11/15 4:33:41pm Sun

>>
>>'gate80,
>>
>>Is that public information? Please quote your source
>>and name the administrator involved.
>>
>>I mean Princeton is on a roll this year and they
>>defeated Colgate football and 2 other PL teams
>>soundly. Maybe I can write this decision-maker a
>>letter of complaint?
>>n
>>Go 'gate!
>
>With due deference to all, there seems to be much
>beating around the bush.
> Adopting the Patriot League as its standard of
>excellence sets Gate's sites to the bottom the
>barrel.However this may be protested,the PL is a
>second rate league mostly fiiled with second rate
>teamms No one respects the PL.Gate played Yale with
>two games experience to none for Yale but was still
>the underdog.Weren't scholarships supposed to make a
>real difference?.

I don't know who doesn't respect whom but let's talk (again) about Princeton's football program. It is obviously on a roll this year and there are many readily understandable factors behind it including money. You may not call them scholarships but they have a way to pay for what they want- as a top school with a storied tradition and a great stadium.

That said, we lost yesterday and I just don't get why anyone needs to get upset about the fact. No, we don't need to belittle Colgate's own program, the PL or question whether or not scholarships are worthwhile as far as helping Colgate recruit. We are where we are and should simply try to make the best of it!

There are plenty of other challenges out there and no amount of backbiting is helpful now, is it?

I look forward to see Colgate's terrific and dedicated coaches and smart players do their best in the coming weeks.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Princeton dropping us from the schedule because we were beating them too often -- 'gate80, 10/11/15 7:46:20pm Sun

>>>'gate80,
>>>
>>>Is that public information? Please quote your source
>>>and name the administrator involved.

Colgate has been playing Princeton in football regularly for over a century. We have won 9 of 11 games with them the last 18 years, and 7 out of 8 the last 12 years. The 2 losses the last 18 years were a 1-point overtime loss in 2006 due to a missed extra point, and a fluky 14-10 loss in 2002 I was at which prevented our 21-game winning streak in 2002-2003 from being a 25-game winning streak. Princeton's future schedules for the foreseeable future have us being replaced by Georgetown and Davidson. Does anyone think this is to strengthen Princeton's schedule? Dartmouth made a similar decision a few years ago when they had lost 16 of their last 18 games with Colgate. Unlike Princeton, they were honest enough to say it was because the series was not competitive, but claimed it was because we played them after playing 2 or 3 games while for them it was often the first game of the season. Ironically, their last game with Colgate in 2011, which I attended, was also a decisive Colgate loss like yesterday's game.

I agree with get 'em gate and Gate Raider that our attitude shouldn't be "who cares if we lose to Ivy teams, and get blown out by FBS and good FCS teams, as long as we win 4 or 5 PL games a year". And while I agree with Steve that 1 loss shouldn't cause us to belittle Colgate's program, the PL, or call for Hunt's head, let's not fool ourselves - this was a BAD loss.


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[> [> [> [> Food for Thought -- The Lone Haranguer, 10/11/15 7:40:28pm Sun

Fordham wasn't good until their fourth season with scholarships. But the key thing they did to make the big jump was get transfers from FBS programs in key positions. First Nebrich (from UConn) at QB and now Medlock (FIU) and Anderson (Marshall) plus Pretlow at CB (Temple) and Klecko (Rutgers) at DL. If we continue recruiting the same player we always have (National Honor Society, three year starter, The Daily Fishwrap All-Star Team for Northern Bumwad County, Third team class B all-state), we're going to keep getting the same players as we always have. We need to go after transfers and, as I believe 'gate80 has advocated in the past, be aggressive within the confines of the AI. In all scholarship sports.


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