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Subject: Bravo Alihja! Thats exactly how I see it.


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Emperor Anguirus
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Date Posted: 14:12:33 04/04/01 Wed
In reply to: Alihja 's message, "The whole gun control thing" on 14:06:11 04/04/01 Wed

>Hello everyone, I decided to get myself over here an'
>debate.
>
>The gun control issue is mixed, because human society
>is so complex. People use guns for varied reasons:
>hunting, protection, and in the case of thieves,
>rapists, murderers, and wackos, to hurt other people.
>Hunting, I see no reason for anymore. No one lives
>that far away from human civilization that they can't
>go buy food. Sport killing bugs the hell out of me
>too. But, that's a moral issue that No One will Ever
>agree on. The only reason people use guns for
>protection is because there are other people out there
>(thieves, rapists, murderers, wackos, etc.) that can
>hurt them with other guns.
>
>As for the whole little kids shooting themselves or
>others, I do not think that all children that hurt
>themselves or others with a gun live in a drug den.
>So, Checkerpaw, I disagree with you Completely on that
>point. What if that little six-year-old is the child
>of one of those people who keeps a gun for protection
>against all the baddies out there? My dad has a gun in
>the house, but I certainly don't live in a
>bug-infested, crack-snorting household. It's in an
>easily opened drawer right at toddler level. And guess
>what, I never touched the thing, 'cause my dad was
>smart enough to educate me about it. And I go to
>public school, just to let you know, since Checks
>seems to have a problem with it.
>
>I think the key to the problem in those cases are the
>parents not being educated enough to educate their
>children! Why was there not a safety lock on it? Why
>was it Loaded? As Guir said, you have as much chance
>of getting hit by lightning than having to use a gun
>to protect yourself. The gun should not have been
>loaded. Therefore, we need gun education programs to
>show people how to use and properly stow a gun in
>their home. But most of those programs are minimal,
>since our (the U.S.) government does not like having
>to worry about gun control issues. Please, do not get
>me started on all the problems our government has with
>pushing major issues away until it's a Real problem.
>We need tougher gun programs, that show parents and
>children alike the horrors of misusing a gun. All of
>you might be out there saying, "The children shouldn't
>have to watch that! They're too young!". Well, they're
>going to be seeing a hell of a lot more if they
>actually do get involved in a shooting. Better to
>learn from the mistakes of others than making that
>same mistake yourself.
>
>Gun registration has its ups and downs too. Yeah,
>sure, it seems pointless, since criminals are going to
>get a gun no matter what. But it does keep tabs on
>most of the guns out there. Not Everyone is a
>criminal. Which scenario would you rather have, one
>where most of the guns are kept in check or one where
>the government has no idea where any of the guns that
>they put out there are?
>
>And I believe that the Second Ammendment, the right of
>the people to bear arms, was created in part because
>of the war. Often times, the militias weren't fast
>enough when trying to beat back British soldiers when
>they went on a burning rampage. So, the villagers back
>then had a need to arm themselves, since there wasn't
>a real police force or big army that could keep
>Britain on its side of the ocean. The only reason the
>Second Ammendment wasn't scrapped after the
>Revolutionary War is because our government hates
>getting rid of anything our forefathers wrote down. By
>the Rev. War era, people were used to owning guns and
>knowing the stubborn nature of our predecessors, no
>one would've given up that right. And so the problem
>has grown...
>
>I don't think anyone could say that there's a "fix
>all" solution and back it up with proof. This issue
>will not be solved in one, smooth stroke as many
>politicians would hope for. For crime to be completely
>gone is an impossibility. The general public must
>understand the human psyche to know that that will
>Never happen. But for it to be lowered, that's
>possible. First, you have to want to do it. But, the
>majority of people out there don't want to have to
>sacrafice anything to get want they want. The American
>stubborness resurfaces... So, when people finally
>learn that this is a problem to be dealt with, they've
>got to take it step by step. Sure, it's gonna cause
>other problems along the way, especially with
>numskulls like those over at the NRA, but that's
>unavoidable. You can't please everyone, so don't try,
>is my motto. That'll just get you stuck in the middle
>and everybody will hate you. Americans are the master
>compromisers. We, as a country, have to figure out
>what is best for the whole, not a certain percent or
>majority, and then act on it.
>
>But will that ever happen? Who knows... Americans
>today are stubborn and selfish in some way or other
>(hey, I'm not a basher! I'm an American and proud of
>it!) and are often divided by sectionalism. They want
>what's best for what they believe in and couldn't give
>a rat's ass about anyone else.
>
>(On a side note: The whole Chinese thing is a complete
>embarrassment. We're just making ourselves look more
>stupid by not apologizing. What's the point of saying,
>"Don't look around in our plane! That's ours!", when
>if that had happened over here, we'd have searched
>that thing inside and out before the Chinese could
>blink. Let's stop beating around the bush [if you'll
>excuse the pun; I couldn't resist whacking on
>Georgie-boy] and get this over with!)

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Whoa, I didn't think a sane beast (me :) and an insane beast ('Guir) could agree..or am I sane?Ali14:25:42 04/04/01 Wed


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