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Subject: Looking for advice


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kattak
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Date Posted: 12:37:24 08/10/09 Mon
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I am looking for some advice in the vrp in pa waiting to be cleared to return to work thinking of applying for cna or monitor tech job not real sure how to approach I have been sober for a year and nine months been in the vrp for 6 months going to meeting, giving random urines but still have not been cleared need to return to work any suggestions

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Subject: Ready for this...


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Ryk H
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Date Posted: 19:02:56 11/29/09 Sun
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I used to visit this forum quite a while ago. I think it was back around 2004 & 2005. I was so bent on having my RN reinstated, it had been revoked in 2003 because of my untreated, out of control ETOHism. The thing is, that as long as that was my only goal, it remained unobtainable. Therefore, I immersed myself in my recovery. I found a sponsor and stayed away from any topic nursing.

I have been continuously sober since October 17th, 2007. On August 19, 2009, the CT BON granted my petition for reinstatement as an RN. I have been told that I will receive the Memorandum of Decision by February 2010 and that after that I can take my refresher, and retake the Boards. I will also be able to ask the OIG to remove me from the exclusion list.

I have so much gratitude for AA and the people who I have grown to love along the way. I have a ton to share, and will be happy to do so as I reacquaint myself in this forum.

I look forward to being a part of the nursing community once again.

Humbly,
theRykster

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Subject: going through a rough time


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Lisa (kind of sad tonight)
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Date Posted: 00:45:21 08/20/09 Thu
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Im kind of sad tonight. I've been a nurse 8 years and am in my 8 year of sobriety. We are in state survey at the skilled facility where I work so stress is high. I lost my dad to cancer last year, my husband is not working, and we filed bankruptcy with house in foreclosure. I have 3 kids. My middle son wears a back brace and has an artificial jaw joint requiring PT every day to keep it working.
Im having marriage problems right now. Trying to figure out if my expectations are too high for my husband. We have a vehicle in the shop we cannot pay to get fixed and he only has excuses about not getting up during the day to look for a job. In his favor, he is going to school 2 nights a week and he does bring the kids to school and to appts,ect. But he plays video games most of the day and does not clean the house. He is very laid back, and calls me a nag. I do nag, he is right. How do I keep my boundaries, be assertive, and then let it go with him? How do I carry most of the responsibility of the house, kids, and job and not resent it? I know I have a choice to stay or go. I have gone once before and found that it was harder to be alone with no one to pick up kids, bring to appts, and spend time with them while working. So going is not an option right now. My program teaches me to examine my own motives and ask God to remove defects of character. I will continue to place it in God's hands and ask Him to save me from being angry after I have done my part. I know this too shall pass. He is providing all my needs for today. I have a good sponsor who is a good listener, and my AA meetings are even held where I work (I secretly make a meeting, or 30 minutes of one, on my break at work on Wed) I have much to be grateful for. I am learning to hold onto His hand tighter and I have become stronger through it all. I just need to make it through this valley.

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Subject: will i work again


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brenda (scared)
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Date Posted: 12:05:39 11/04/09 Wed
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I am new to the IPN program in florida. i actually haven't started treatment yet...i just got my evaluation and are having financial issues as u all can identify with im sure.
my question is...is it worth it to go thru the program and still not being able to work?? i've read some messages that RN still not working after a year! I've been off work for 5 months. i can't even find job at fast food. i'm 46 , single, scared. I appreciate any advice.

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Subject: Information


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Malorie
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Date Posted: 17:30:49 09/21/09 Mon
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Hello, I am a student nurse, researching chemically dependency in the nursing profession, wondering if anyone would be willing to give me some information or would like to share anything with me that would be helpful for my project. I have people very close to me who also fight this same daily fight, so i am VERY familiar with addiction just not from the nursing profession. If anyone would be willing to help me out in anyway please feel free to e-mail me at lgmc0099@yahoo.com.
Thank you for your time,
Malorie

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Subject: Research Study Enrolling for Nurses with Opioid Dependence


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Larry (EXCITED)
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Date Posted: 11:45:04 10/26/09 Mon
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Segal Institute is currently enrolling healthcare professionals (including nurses and doctors) in a long-term outpatient research study on opioid dependence in South Florida. The study lasts about 26 months including 26 visits. Please call me on my cell at 954-218-4282 if you are interested.
Thanks,
Larry

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Subject: Reality bites


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Karen
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Date Posted: 21:26:31 09/11/09 Fri
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I'm reading all the lack of success stories re. jobs. I find myself developing a negative outlook based on this. I try to have hope and believe God has a plan and will lead me somewhere in due season. He has done the supernatural that i did not deserve or earn plenty times. Why would He not do it again? But, it's hard to believe sometimes. He never said it'd be easy and faith that is stretched becomes stronger. I do sometimes wonder if I'm just self willing and I need to just let go of nursing and accept it ended. Sometimes there is a stress I feel and it's that I should move on. I'm not in a hurry - I just want something in detox or recovery - but I don't want to waste my mental and spiritual energy on something useless for me. So, I quess all I can do is keep seeking God's will and direction daily. I'll know when I know- more will be revealed. That much I know right now. There's a song that describes me when it says, "I want it all and I want it now." I also think of the one by the Cyress liitle girl- "It doesn't matter where I end up-it's in the climb" What matters so often-what we learn and gain is from the climb itself. I can look back one day and say, "that torture I went through built so much character in me I'm almost grateful. Thanks that's all I got now.

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Subject: Should I try to reinstate


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Karen
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Date Posted: 19:03:24 09/10/09 Thu
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I have not worked as RN since 03. Went to treatment but was suspended with option to petion for reinstatement on probation. However, I relasped and got arrested for RX forge. It's almost been 3 years and I've heard nothing from the charges. I went thru inpt and out pt tx right away. I've stuck with recovery since 05. I plan to find out what's up before I go to board hearing so i can tell them this happened regardless as to what has happened to the charges. Anyway, it's been about six years. Maybe more than CE's will be required like a clinical as well. I know the states will vary on this. Then, I'd have to see if the new state I'm living in will take me in transfer to their monitoring program. I've heard of nurse's winning and losing with the board - even with recovery evidence. A voice keeps telling me, "you are crazy to try after the relpae and those charges and it's been 6-7 years since you worked." I don't know if that is common sense talking or just negativity. I don't want to spend all my savings flying to another state without a good chance. Maybe I'm being foolish to think they'd consider letting me back int a program. There are nurses that have lost their license that didn't mess up as bad as me. So, there are my doubts. Also, I just started documenting meetings, plan to get maybe only 4-5 months of drug screens (due to $). Tx center records is about all I will have for evidence. Except for the therapist eval. they make you have. Anyway, does anyone have anything or know of anyone similar? A good outcome would be nice to hear but I may need any kind of reality. I might be in dream land- not sure-confused!

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Subject: Can I share, to save others from loosing their careers, also?


Author:
Denise G
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Date Posted: 14:44:26 07/16/09 Thu
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This will be the first time I have shared how I allowed my addiction to destroy my career, hurt those who love me and ruined the hope of restoring my license.

I am now 5 years clean and sober, and am now in the "Transitional" Phase of one of the toughest long-term residential treatment programs in the US.I spent time in prison and have lost everything because of the choice I made when I got to that moment when I couldn't imagine life sober and couldn't live like I had been any more.

I never had a criminal record and never had been handcuffed or been in jail, but at the age of 47 was sentanced to prison for robbing our local Pharmacy. Pretty desperate behavior, even for someone with the goal of suicide in mind.

I have had problems all my life with alcohol and opiates. I spent most (23 of the 29 years) since the first time in recovery,clean and sober. However, since I had to learn by my own experience rather than others, I'm here to tell you that this Disease is absolutely progressive. My license is a casualty of my disease and one of the "costs" I have paid.

I have relapsed on pain meds 3 times in 29 years and the last time it was as a direct result of a terrible accident that resulted in the death of my 4 year old daughter and myself with injuries very serious and too numerous to tell you here. I was on a vent 3 weeks, when I woke up Kassandra was gone and buried, I had 15 surgeries and excuses to use lots of drugs and used every single one of those excuses until huge amounts of meds no longer revieved my pain(grief). The sorrow-pain was the one that was killing me and I was going to run from it as long as possible.

Unfortunately running never works- we are always close behind, because wherever I go-there I am. And, of course the feelings come along, too.

I need not go into how much, how long, when or where I "practiced" my addiction-we all are expert at that. The solution is what we need to learn to practice. That's the part that doesn't come naturally-at least not for a while.

Today I am looking for a job and my heart is heavy with the possibilities I threw away. The talent and excellent patient care I will not get to give. Especially when as a patient myself, I see what we are NOT passing on to those that are now coming into the profession.I wish we were not afraid and ignorant of this disease-I do not have my license but I still have the knowledge that sadly goes to waste as I can't work, even as a CNA or a Phlebotomist.I will be very lucky to work at a fast food place for $7.25/hr or a housekeeper, maybe at a hotel. I would be grateful today for that, as I am for my life.It "takes what it takes" to learn the necessary lessons in this life.

It's funny how we always get what we need rather than what we want. In recovery I see that and I'm grtaeful to be even looking for a job. I have really become aware that all my life I have always had all I ever really wanted. It's too bad some of us take extreme measures to learn.

My hope and my prayer is that this can keep someone else from some of the difficulties I have walked through and am even now walking through --- Go to meetings, reach out for support--espesially when you think you have it "under control", get a sponsor-do what he/she says, do the work-it's the only thing that I KNOW works. Don't set yourself up by working with narcotics frquently-there will come a moment when you may not make the right choice. Why chance your whole life? The funny thing about this disease is, it tells us we don't have it if we are not reminded OFTEN. More often than my mind thinks is necessary-"1st thought wrong!"-almost always.

May you know Peace today, Denise

PS If you know of a job-I'm definitely looking

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Subject: working my program


Author:
kattak
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Date Posted: 07:45:43 08/25/09 Tue
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I have been clean and sober for 1yr and 9mns working my program going to meetings in vrp program for 6mns still waiting to be cleared to work had surgrey in april applied for so many jobs as cna, hha and phelbotomy no luck starting to get discouraged and worried that when able to practice wont find a job any help would be grateful

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