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Date Posted: 18:16:46 10/09/99 Sat
Author: fate_777
Subject: Re: capital punishment
In reply to: Beth 's message, "Re: capital punishment" on 17:26:01 10/09/99 Sat

> > > > Just wondered what everyones thoughts are on the
> > > death
> > > > penalty, as far as being christians and such.
> > > Honestly
> > > > I am not sure what I think about it, being a cop
> I
> > > > must say I see why the states have it, but then
> > again
> > > > I'm not sure if killing someone for killing
> someone
> > > is
> > > > absolutly right either. I must say though on
> cases
> > we
> > > > have had, it is hard to say I wouldn't support
> the
> > > > death penalty in those cases, like next month
> > > Missouri
> > > > is set to execute a man who killed a Highway
> > > Patrolmen
> > > > over a traffic ticket, so in a way I can not
> really
> > > > say that it bothers me they will execute him, but
> > I'm
> > > > also very biased against cop killers, so I guess
> I
> > > > don't really know what to think, so I'm curious
> > what
> > > > others think.
> > > > god bless
> > > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > Being since I am from Texas which is "The Lethal
> > > Injection Capital of America", I am for the death
> > > penalty. The Bible clearly tells us to obey the
> laws
> > > of the land. So, if you break a law, you pay the
> > > consequences. I am different from Gabriel and
> > > Zuriakim regarding murderers just getting a life
> > > sentence,if they murder someone, they should suffer
> > > the consequences by having their life taken if that
> > is
> > > what the law states. It just galls me that someone
> > > like Charles Manson is still breathing. He is
> never
> > > going to repent and misguided kids actually send
> him
> > > fan mail and make him their hero. Maybe if he had
> > > been put to death, these kids wouldn't have given
> him
> > > a second thought.
> >
> > Hmmm... I don't know about that. Many murderers have
> > been known to come to repentance in jail or on the
> way
> > to death. Look at the thief on the cross, for
> instance.
> >
> > Peace and prayer,
> > Gabriel
>
>
> I know that there have been many murderers that have
> repented and been saved. There is Karla Faye Tucker
> that was put to death here in Texas a year and a half
> ago. She became a born again christian while in jail
> but she was put to death even though she had lawyers
> trying to get her sentence changed to life in prison.
> Karla had married the prison chaplain and had a very
> effective ministry going inside the prison. Governor
> Bush refused to commute her sentence. It upset me but
> I understand that it was God's will and I know that
> her testimony will still change lives even though she
> is dead. And I fully believe David Berkowitz'
> testimony about being saved,too. I know a lot of
> people think it is an act but when I see his eyes on
> tv, they look totally different from when he was
> convicted. Now as for Charles Manson, I think if he
> was going to repent, he would have done it by now and
> I don't think he ever will. He is evil and needs to
> put removed from this world.

I see your point on Karla Tucker, but I also understand why Bush would not commute it, just because someone repents, even if it really is sincere, does not excuse what they did, nor excuse them of the consequences. Personally if it was me, and I was saved but facing the death penalty, I would rather die and be with jesus than be in prison for life no parole. One of our radio DJ's witnesses her execution, and he was witnessed others as he is a minister, and he made the comment of he has never seen a prisoner so calmly walk into the death chamber, he said you could see it in her eyes she knew where she was going, she was ready, and now she is better off, then he posed the question on the radio of if you die now do you know like she did where you will go?
god bless you all
Brian

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