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[> [> [> Re: Truth Ruth - you've got it all wrong -- Truth Ruth, 10:07:20 01/19/03 Sun

$18 was used as an example - not to be taken literally - however, I could use the $5.00 analogy and substitute Pabst for Stella ...

The point is the AD IS RESPONSIBLE for the success of the program - and that trickles down to support, atmosphere, and NOISE behind the team - and that is what helps a team succeed... did anyone go to Cameron on Jan 2? it was student break and it was still rocking - don't try to tell me that the energy level of the students at the old Cole Field House (I refuse to call it by it's corporate name)did not directly contribute to the Terps upsetting the Blue Devils yesterday - or the success of the Blue Devils over the past decade...

SOMEONE has to be a visionary.. It is the AD's job is to contribute to a successful program - he is failing to to that... that is obvious!!!! If not him - then WHO?????

How about a little less focus on the Women's program - and do the proper job for the men's program.. let's be honest..

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[> [> [> [> Re: Truth Ruth - you've got it all wrong -- Stagman, 11:10:55 01/19/03 Sun

To compare to Duke and Maryland is ludicrous. Duke has won several national championships and, until yesterday, was #1 in the country. Cameron Indoor Stadium is also right on campus.

As far as Maryland, the base of students is enormous compared to Fairfield. Maryland basketball is also #2 in the DC region, only behind Redskins football.

Let's not forget that FU only has about 2,500 students.

Let's assume that half of FU's student body has any interest in basketball. Let's then assume that, on any given night, that 50% do not have to study for an impending exam, have a report that is due, etc... 2,500 x .5 x .5 = 625 students at a game. What do we get now? 300?

Sure, in the old days, on a Saturday night, the students would come out in droves. I don't think that happened on a lot of weeknights though, except in the really good years. I was there from 80-84. I went to every game no matter what. I was one of the few that did so.

Given 20 years of losing, I can understand why students are finding better things to do with their time. That being said, if the team keeps winning, I will disappointed if more don't start showing up immediately.

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[> [> [> [> A $13 exageration is just an example? Get your facts straight. -- Truth George, 12:07:30 01/19/03 Sun

I agree the university needs to do more to promote the program. Your point which is well take would have some credibility if it was factual. The way you've posted it is patently false and obscures the credibitity of your point. Please try and get your facts straight at least once in a while.

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[> [> [> [> [> . -- TruthRuth, 12:29:02 01/19/03 Sun

Truth George - nit picking must be your strong suit... bottom line is they have to pay.. and that is the wrong way to go - be it $1 - $5 -or $28... students should be encouraged to go to games and show some pride - and demanding $$ in return is an example of poor strategy, execution and vision by the university - pointedly - the AD and his minions...

you must be a liberal attorney.. haha!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> If I was I'd be initiating three suites -- Truth George, 15:17:50 01/19/03 Sun

Ruth, I am a supporting of Tim O'toole, have been since he was named. But exageratting his record and abilities does not help him, it just makes your arguements on his behalf since less credible. I hope TOT runs the table and proves all of his detractors wrong. I also hope his case is helped by credible factuals posts which point out the positives like O'tooles excellent recruiting efforts, and the job his has done building a team that plays well together and has excellent chemistry.

Barring a collapse of collisol proportions, which seems incredibly unlikely given the depth of this team, we can look forward to have Coach O'toole for another 3 seasons. I'd like to be able to say at the end of those years that he is the best coach in the Maac, even then, the comparasons to Dean Smith, Jim Calhoun and Wooden would be very premature. One season does not a great coach make, nor do the four past season make O'toole a bad coach.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: If I was I'd be initiating three suites -- TruthRuth, 19:57:47 01/19/03 Sun

Amazingly, I could not agree with you more Truth George - however, I have never exaggerated TOT's record - that speaks for itself- I am just urging patience a he and his staff build a formidable program... this is year five, and the best is yet to come.. there is nothing that detracts credibility about these statements.. and I do still think TOT has the potential to become a star in NCAA coaching history - and I am in the company of Boeheim and K and Amaker in seeing that potential ...

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