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Date Posted: 06:05:30 02/11/00 Fri
Author: bnimble
Subject: Make a 'stab' at a few things.
In reply to: jack 's message, "Re: Alienation" on 22:20:44 02/10/00 Thu

...

> > > > How does one alienate those who might agree
> > > > with him? I'm confused as I've always thot
> > > > alienation implied disagreement. Care to
> > > > comment?
> > >
> > > Take groups A, B and C for example. Group C is a
> > > tyrannical dictator; group A wishes to overcome
> > group
> > > C becuase of group A's love for freedom. Group B
> > > wishes to overcome group C because group C stands
> in
> > > the way of group B exacting revenge against group
> A.
> > > Even though group A and B share the common goal of
> > > overcoming group C, would group A be wise to take
> > > group B as an ally in the fight?
> >
> > Do you always think in The Collective?
>
> Obviously far from it.

Show me. I'm from Missouri.

>Though, if you'd like to think
> me a socialist, far be it from me to disagree.

I don't think much of other folks paradigms.

What do you call yourself?

Do you believe this hive is more important
than each individual?

> But what was it you asked? How's it possible that
> people who agree might "alienate" each other? You
> seem, with this latest post, determined to disprove
> your original sentiment. Sort of self-defeating.

I missed your logic here.

> > Are you an ant or a bee?
>
> Human. Share some traits with insects, but would like
> to think myself better. Though, perhaps...

Bzzzzttt.

...

> > > > Do you always include folks in your plans/ideas,
> > i.e.
> > > > the use of the word we?
> > >
> > > I assume that I'm not the only libertarian in the
> > > country; yes.

I was asking a much larger question than about
a particular hive.

> > Of course, you are a thinking individual first,
> > arent' you.
>
> Yeah, sorry, people sometimes come to the same
> conclusions. Same set of equations, same set of
> answers. Proves we're mindless; doesn't it?

It does? How so?

>I'm
> majoring in Physics, minoring in Math. Those damned
> equations; I can't seem to find answers different
> than those my Professor proposes. Again, proof I
> can't think for myself.

Ma nature is relentless about getting the facts
right, ain't she. But what do you do when the
facts aren't easily seen by you or shown to you?

> > > > Suppose I reserve the claim to be excluded. Would
> > > > you allow that?
>
> Certainly. Our best chance of overcoming the
> Republicans and Democrats is to cast but a single vote
> in oposition. Yes, indeed, we need not band together.
> One vote against President Clinton; one vote against
> the Republican legislature. Certainly, that's the
> surest path to attaining liberty.

Thank you. Agin, I reserve the claim to be excluded
in the delusional search for The Good Ruler. I'll
rule myself since there is no other option for me.
And so will everyone else. It's...

I N E V I T A B L E

> > >
> > > If freedom ever catches on in this country,
> > certainly.
> > > As things stand now, "we" 're all living the
> left's
> > > idea of "we".

Left, right. Wings are for birds.

Are you a bird?

> > I contend that you have it backwards.
> >
> > Freedom will catch on when enuf folks exercise
> > their claim to be excluded.
>
> I'd be happy to convince the masses that the reason
> they can't keep their heads above water is that, even
> after a college education, they're just paying too
> much in taxes.

Me too.

BTW, how much is too much? I keep asking folks
this question and getting different answers.

You apparently don't believe taxation is theft
otherwise you'd advocate something more than
less.

> What, in the hell, is your strategy?

To live my life on my own, without demanding
anything from anyone, only asking or trading.

> >
> > The above sentiment is, to me, as close to a
> "religion"
> > as I care to get.
>
> Huh?

Read what I just wrote.

> What I said was:
>
> "If freedom ever catches on in this country, certainly.
> As things stand now, "we" 're all living the left's
> idea of "we".
>
> That's "religion? Guess I can't think deeply enough
> to fathom what the hell you're talking about.

I wasn't speaking of your "religion". Only mine.

> > Would you care to 'talk up' the idea, i.e. promote
> > it?
> >
> > Any takers in this regard?
> >
> > Stake your claim.
> >
> > Thar's 'gold' in them thar hills.
> >
> > On to independence.
>
> Yeah, nonsense: let's see if we can draw a buzz.

This is the hive, isn't it?

> "It's a hell of a start it could be made into a
> monster...If we all join together as a team...And if I
> tell ya the name of the game boy, we could be ridin'
> the gravy train..."

Huh? The Hive is All?

> Whatever. I listen to Floyd as a distraction. When I
> was a teen, I thought it profound; these days, I
> think it an amusing distraction.

Ain't my thing. I prefer Rob McConnell or Buddy
Rich etc. Big Band. I rarely listen to lyrics.
Don't know why.

> But,
>
> Whatever.
>
> Individuality.

Indeed, but it's a long way to Tipp...er,
there from here, wouldn't you say?

I think the Borg are here.

A look at alt.individualism confirms it for me.
The number of posts there has dwindled to near
zero.

Same almost applies here.

Save yourselves.

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Replies:

Re: How enlightening... -- jack, 19:47:34 03/25/00 Sat
- Why I'm not at all surprised. -- bnimble, 08:39:56 03/26/00 Sun
  - It's not stars you wankers... -- Katey, 12:24:48 05/16/01 Wed