Re: Proof The Bible Is False -- CREATIONISM PROVES EVOLUTION

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Date Posted: 09:11:36 12/16/04 Thu
Author: jose
Subject: Re: Proof The Bible Is False
In reply to: Brett 's message, "Re: Proof The Bible Is False" on 21:42:57 10/30/03 Thu

"Actually, we are all just random mutations and there is no "self." You and I are illusions. Free will does not exist because we are just the result of random mutations and reactions. (Look up a little thing called Determinism.)"

Really? Mutations in the germline could be to some degree random but there are large stretches of sequence (up to 1000 base pairs or more) that are "ultraconserved" over hundreds of millions of years (see a Science report on this in 2004). Clearly there is "insulation" of some sort that either prohibits random mutations here or rapidly repairs them before the gamete is mature to fertilize and transmit the mutation.

Moreover, one could hardly argue that organisms have evolved with increasing disorder. An amoeba does not require a pumping chamber to circulate blood, but fish and people do (actually flies do too but their circulatory system is "open").

Thus, if we are a consequence of random mutations (or increasing entropy) we would not be communicating these thoughts and arguing our positions.

I leave you with one of my favorite quotes (and its from Dr. Hawking):

"However, if we do discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable in broad principle by everyone, not just a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists, and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason, for then we would know the mind of God."

Peace

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Great quote Jose -- pathospea, 04:16:29 10/05/05 Wed