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Subject: Part one

Author:
Bryan Reed

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Date Posted: 09:16:31 08/10/03 Sun
In reply to: Rev. William Moore 's message, "[clipped some due to the forums max line limit of 100]" on 04:14:20 08/10/03 Sun

>You point is? Claims and faith are irrelevant to
>truth. This is about truth, right?

no, this is about possibility of truth. Since all things are possible, so is this truth. Nobody would have cared to build the first airplane if it never occured to anyone to do so, if someone didn't have faith that it could be done. Here things maybe work a little backwards from that principle, if they even work at all. We'll only know for sure in death.
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>>A large scale show of power would be in order.
>
>As it would for your "god", but so far his display is
>unimpressive for some reason.

The workings of the universse are very impressive, though this isn't proof necessarily, in the end it could prove to be evidence.

>The truth isn't
>effected by any faith. The world would *still* be
>round even if no one had faith that it was. The truth
>is the truth whether not people have 'faith' in it or
>not. You speak of faith like it's somehow relevant.

The truth IS effected by faith because it is by faith that people seek a lot of truth. Some is self evident all on it's own but other truths need to be sought. That the earth is round is one such truth.
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>>That's just it, God has never claimed to be a devine
>>being... or at least not for several thousand years.
>>If there is anything to the stories then he proved
>>quite decisively then.
>
>God hasn't (a sign of his nonexistance), but many
>people (the religious) obviously DO make the claim on
>his behalf. Thus, the burden of proof does indeed fall
>with them.

Then the burden of disproving it, likewise, falls with those that say it's not true.

When some said the earth was flat and others said the earth was round, before it was proven round the burden of proof rested on both sides because both sides were making claims.

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Re: Part one	Rev. William Moore	16:53:22 08/10/03 Sun