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Date Posted: 07:24:32 10/01/04 Fri
Author: monaroCountry
Subject: Re: 2004 GTO
In reply to: Tom DiStasio 's message, "2004 GTO" on 13:26:08 08/20/02 Tue

The monaro is also a muscle car legend. It was one of the first muscle cars in australia and was able to back its reputation up both in drags and also in the track. Handling wasnt the best part of the old pontiac gto, this was unlike the monaro of old. Where it won bathurst and other races.

I didnt grow up around american muscle cars (esp. gto). Looking at the old gto styling I certainly wouldnt call them distinctive or even good styling. The old gto's styling were also very BORING and seem to be very COMMON. Look at all the cars in the 60s and 70s, many were boxy and had the same style as the GTO. As someone mentioned here before, hoodscoops does not make a car.

Some of you guys are abit IGNORANT of the monaro's history. I suggest that it would be best to do a bit of research before typing any more disparaging comments.

Unlike america, australia stayed true to the muscle philosophy. It could be that you have forgotn what TRUE muscle cars stood for. From what I remember Styling and looks were not as important as engine and performance. No one can deny that this car can perform, since it has the vette engine and tranny.

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[> 04 Goat -- ram09, 22:57:15 10/05/04 Tue

I have owned my 04 GTO for about two and a half weeks and I LOVE IT. After reading the postings on this page it seems that most people dont like the styling of the new GTO, and the fact that its built in Australia. But you must remember with no hood scoops and no extreme styling, this car is basically a sleeper. I drive 80 miles a day to and from work and I pass numerous City and Highway patrol officers and I have yet to even see any of them look my way. Now when it comes to a Mustang, not only do I see them gettting pulled over all the time but there are thousands of them in the area I live in. That is one of the reasons I bought the new Goat, not very many people have them. If GM has to go down under to get a little balls back in its car lineup so be it. I for one am glad that GM is finally building something that can compete with the Mustang, and not be a Vette. Many of the people that have posted on this site have said that the Chevy engine in the Pontiac isnt right. Well look at all the other GM cars and trucks they all have the same design of engine in them. Chevy didnt design the LS-1 G.M. did and it uses them in all kinds of vehicles. Ever notice how the motors in the G.M. and Chevy trucks can use parts off the LS1 and LS6. G.M. has always been know to keep things interchangable, it keeps costs down. Alot of the people dedicated to the old Goat dont like the new one for many of these reasons. But I ask can there old goat get 27 mpg at 70 mph. Ya they probably can out run my car but my car got a warranty and this car scarces the hell outta me when I get on it. I like the old classics, but I wanted to have a new car that will run like hell on wheels. Sounds alot like some of you older guys when you were young and buying the now classics like the Camaro and GTO's. The New GTO was brought back not only to commerate the 40th anniversary of the Goat but for the young guns like me that know what GTO stands for and wants to get a piece of that history. No its not built in America, no it doesnt have the most horsepower in the world, but it does have 350 and as most people know the LS1 is very easily moidified to make more power. The 05 has 400 and for the nostalgic guys out there it has hood scoops. I dont know if there functional or not but the original scoops on the very first goat werent functional either. The 05 goat also has dual exhaust coming out each side in the back. I personally like the look of both of the pipes coming out of one side. Kinda makes all those would be racers think its a fake dual when its not. If you older guys dont like the new goat thats fine with me dont buy one. But until you test drive one dont knock it till ya try it.