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Date Posted: 10:57:23 06/09/17 Fri
Author: Knuit Holt
Subject: Mandatory extreme medical exams and procdures on kids and adults - polls with stories

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Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood


Collected, edited and analyzed by Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his websites with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm">http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm</a>

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about.
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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524">http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524</a>

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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395">http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395</a>

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327">http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327</a>

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976">http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976</a>

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807">http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807</a>


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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm">http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm</a>

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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED

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Boy, 17 yo, bussed from sport school to center for extensive pelvic procedures

I am male. It happened in North America, in2015 or later, when I was 17 year old, attending a boading school for athletics trainers. I got in a bus in group from our school to a special establishment used for these type of exams, housed in airport hangars.

All kids that had shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters were selected, but possibly also other criteria were used. There came a letter home from school.

PREPARATIONS

They washed my body before the exam. My stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.

I had to strip totally naked before the exam and was neked through all the procedures. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast., on my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head. Other reports about recent ordels indicate this.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus.

I got anesthesia through tubes into my blood vessels. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening. The anesthesia made me relaxed but I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given. My head arms legs ankles chest abdomen wrist were all bound. My hands were placed into some gloves to prevent me from grabbing anything.


EXAMINATION PERFORMED BY EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They did some other type of test with advanced machines.


They examined my stomach area, my hip area and my arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.


They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, at my chest to record body functions, at my belly to record body functions and at my limbs to record body functions.



They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS THROUGH THE MOUTH AND MOUTH

They inspected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS THROUGH THE URETHRA

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.

INTERNAL INSPECTIONS THROUGH THE ANUS

The doctor explored my anus with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe.


INTERNAL EXMINATION OF THE GENITAL ORGANS AND TESTING OF SEXUAL REACTIONS

Doctor inserted a finger in my anus and massaged my prostate while a pump on my testicles and penis milked me of semen. There was a doctor reading off vitals and brain activity while being shown pictures of my female classmates and friends. Doctor pounded finger in and out.


ARRANGEMENT AFTER THE PROCEDURE

They held me inconscious for some hours. I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam, nude Back on the bus.

I attended private boarding school. I went to a gymnastic school as the main school.



COMMENTS

The exam followed a standard protocol for examination of kids that is used in selected communities or schools in most of the world and these exams seem to be coordinated by an international unit, possibly some department in UN or a network of health research institutes.

Sometimes one use the examination ordeal to serve selected research projects. In this case it seems that one they were performing a research project about the sexual realctions of teens.

The fact that he was held unconscious for some hours, point to more being done than he remembers. Since this as a sport school, they possibly did some intervention in his genital regions to decrease his sexual interest, since sport schools often regard such interets as something disturbing.

It is also highly probable that the placed one or more electronic chips into him when he was unconscious that make it possible to monitor his bodily reactions and wearabouts continually by radio transmission.

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Girl, 7yo, Germany, Cystoscopy and colonoscopy to investigate voiding problems

My doughter had cystoscopy. The exam took place in Western Europe, Germany, in a hospital, 7 years old, Year 2005. Cystoscopy occured in a hospital. We said something like: The doctor shall look at you down in your stomach. By car from Mom.

PREPARATIONS

Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given laxatives at home before the exam. Given enema at home before going. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Got a hospital gown before going to bed. Given enema during preparations.

Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy. Was put to sleep with a small enema, propably midazolam.Fell totally in sleep after the medication. The whole bed was rolled with her upon when the time for the exam had come. Taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A consent formula was presented and signed.

God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Had a gown around her, but the lower body was naked. Lay on back with legs in stirrups.



THE EXAMINATION

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped upp the bladder with air or gas when looking inside. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the vagina to inspect the bladder and genital area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. They inspected the whole colon - full colonoscopy.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed some hours after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.


DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT

Diagnosis - urinary infection. Got mediaction for infection. The reason was urinary infection. The reason was problems with urination. It was unneccessary.


COMMENTS

What occured with this girl was a full examination of her pelvic area and lower digestive tract. This comprehensive examination is not necessary for symptoms that only point to a urinaty infection.

Some communities have made it a standard to perform this comprehensive exam on all children at this age, both boys and girls. If the child has some problem that shall be investigated or threated under anesthesia, they tend to perform the exam at the same time and pretend the exam was for this problem. Those children that do not have any special health problem are usually called in at a specially planned time table.

If the mother was not with the doughter the whole time, probably more that what is told here was done, most probably endoscopic examinations through her mouth also.

Edited by Knut Holt

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm">http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm</a>

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Girl, Asia, scool age and teenage, body tests and pelvic exams combined with psychological therapies

I am a female. It happened when I was a school-aged child and also as a teenager in the year 1980 - 1989, in Asia.

I was examined in a special psychological health center, somewhat like a spa actually. Parents drove me. A therapist did the exam. No other was present at firsm but then parents some visits, several nurses and medical students in others.

EXAM OVERVIEW:
They examined my head, teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals.

They inserted instruments into my mouth. They inserted instruments into my vagina, speculum but also fingers. They performed a psychological exam. They took x-rays of the examined areas. They took ultrasound pictures of the examined areas.

ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. They insisted upon total nudity at all times.


EXAM SEQUENCE

First they said they were going to teach me to be comfortable with my body. Then had me take all my clothes off, talked about each body part in detail as it was exposed. After that talked to me and showed me puberty charts, comparing my body parts with other girls and women. Then had long talks about how I felt and how I should feel, any issues I feel etc.

Thereafter various kinds of touching, mostly external to explain that my skin is normal and healthy. The exam always ended with a photograph taken which I got a copy of to keep. I was asked to talk about all of my bodily functions in detail and demonstrate them.


REASON AND JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? My parents and other adults were concerned that I had a problem with being naked in front of others. What is your opinion about thios experience? At the time I didn't understand but now I do, and wish it continued today with modern young people.


UROGENITAL EXAM

The therapist watched me pee anytime I had to go, following me into the bathroom.

They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They took speciments (pap smears etc) from my vagina with an instrument.
They performed an outer ultrasound exam of my female genitals and lower tummy area. They perfomed an ultrasound exam through my vagina.

They also checked under my clit prepuce, pulled on lips, rubbed a lot.


RECTAL EXAM

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone.


OBSERVATIONS

Someone strange person came and performed an intimate exam even though I was called in for quite another reason. Someone strange person came and performed a social interrogation even though I was called in for quite another reason. The exam took a very long time. They were long and frequent and went on for a few years
FOLOW-UPS
Psychological or social counceling as follow up: I had many more of these until I was comfortable enough to masturbate to climax in front of them.


COMMENTS


It is possible that the reluctance of the girl for showing herself made the parents suspect the girl has some disease she tried to hide or that she was used sexually by somebody and tied to hide it. The body manipulations was of a kind that could give reactions suitable to reveal such social issues.

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Girl, Bolivia, 13yo, cystoscopy in a health center followed by her mother

My doughter had cystoscopy. I brought my daughter in for an exam when she complained of some pain downstairs. The exam took place in South or mid America, Bolivia, when she was 13 years old, Year 2007. She had cystoscopy in a health centre.


PREPARATIONS

We got no explanation in the first place . The exam was a total surprize. The doctor didn't talk much. I brought my daughter to the health center. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed.


Then taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed.

I undressed my daughter completely. In my country exams are always done in the naked. I signed a form saying the medical staff could do as they liked.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

She got pain-killing gas through a mask that made calm and sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. She lay on her back with straight legs, then lay on back with legs in stirrups. The doctor put my naked daughter in a lot of positions, including "Frog leg" position, during the examination. She just got a little gas to calm down, but was awake.


THE EXAM PROCEDURE

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the vagina to inspect the bladder and genital area. They were very quick probes, the doctor said everything was fine.

While we were there, he gave her a full head to toe physical examination, saying it was good to have these done as often as possible, and that I should do them for her at home as well.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UPS

Diagnosis - urinary infection. He said she had a mild UTI and some cranberry juice would clear it up. If it didn't, I should come back for another exam and get antibiotics. The reason was urinary infection.


JUDGEMENT

It was useful. I would bring my daughter to this doctor several more times, he was good and thorough.


COMMENTS

The procedure was done as it should be done, with just that anesthesia needed to make the girl comfortable, but not the exaggerated anesthesia often use in North America and Western Europe, which adds discomfort before and after the exam and adds risks.

A consent where the parents allow the doctor to do anything, is however not a good thing. A concent form should explain exactly what procedures they intended and only ask concent for that.

Edited by Knut Holt

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm">http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm</a>

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Girl, 11yo-16yo, used as a treining object for pelvic exams for medical students

I am female. It happened As preteen age 10-12 and early teen 13-16. The procedure happened in Asia, except Russia in the years 1980-1989.

I had an exam or procedure through my vagina. It was an exam for the training of medical students. I was asked if I would help them out, and I agreed. It was mostly an exam of my genitals and a bit of my breasts and legs.

The shool was involved but the procedure occured mostly at a health center. It was a teaching hospital, I was 11 the first time but I went back several times. It was just so I could help medical students practice examining. I was taken there by my parents.


SPECIAL OBSERVATIONS

Strange persons appeared around me before and after the procedure than those I expected to perform the procedure. The school health service was more than usually interested in me around the time of the procedure, and asking questions or doing exams that did not seem to be related to the procedure.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

Actually I was nude throughout. They gave me gas through a mask. I was mostly given some oxygen, though it tasted a tad odd. kind of minty. I got electrodes on my chest to measure my heartbeat, one on my neck, and one on my inner thigh. I was awake for all of it, just nice and sleepy and calm.



MORE ABOUT THE EXAM

They kept saying they would do one more kind of exam, then another, and another. They were pretty thorough in their examinations, and because there were so many students, most things got repeated so each group could get a good look. Everyone examined me a lot, they checked over my limbs, looked into my vagina, pulled up my clitoral hood,



JUDGEMENT

I think that examination procedures should be a lot more transparent. There's a very silly modern idea of ""privacy"" that only means if there was a bad doctor they would have an easier time getting away with abuse. Better that everything is in full view of a lot of witnesses, there's nothing to be embarrassed about if you're getting your body treated or examined.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

No catheter, but I did pee in a cup. No arrangement in my anus but they did take my temperature rectally, also vaginally and orally and in my armpit. I did have electrodes on my chest to measure my heartbeat, one on my neck, and one on my inner thigh.


COMMENTS

The teaching hospital surely cooperated with the school health service to find children they could use for teaching purposes, and the parents were probably connected, possibly to ask for permision, and surely to get them bring the girl to the hospital at the right times. Possibly the parents got some money.

The ansethesia was surely N2O-gas, often used to calm down patients before procedures.

Edited by Knut Holt

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.abicana.com">http://www.abicana.com</a>

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