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Date Posted: 02:03:55 11/17/12 Sat
Author: -
Subject: Re: Matt Lowry goes incognito
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: Matt Lowry goes incognito" on 15:30:18 11/16/12 Fri

>>>Matt, why the secrecy?
>>>
>>>Are you ashamed to be seen talking to us?
>>>
>>>Are you afraid to be noticed endorsing something not
>>>on the list?
>>>
>>>Are you afraid of being observed explaining something
>>>in an unapproved manner?
>>>
>>>George
>>>
>>>Nixon: John, it's me!
>>>
>>>Mitchell: It's hard to recognize you in the clown
>>>white makeup and the fright wig.

>>>
>>>Nixon: I'm incognito, John. There's something I've
>>>been wanting to talk to you about.
>>>
>>>Mitchell: Yes sir?
>>>
>>>Nixon: You say you don't know anything about any
>>>break-in, and I don't know anything about any
>>>break-in. Offhand, I'd say one of us is full of the
>>>old crapola. Which one of us is it, John?
>>>
>>>Mitchell: Uh... me?
>>>
>>>Nixon: Attaboy, John!
>>just lazy-
>>
>>but the point needed to be made that the SHC statement
>>was always about sex outside of marriage and still is.
>> but with changes that have taken place over the last
>>30 years in western culture, that basis for the
>>statement is being actively challenged.
>>if the church is authentically being the church, then
>>it must take up the issue in a relevant way, and in a
>>way that is faithful, not to traditionalism or
>>presumed orthodoxy, but to the nature of god and the
>>passion of god for all creation.
>>
>>regardless of all the rants and scriptural wresting,
>>authentic response to the spirit of god does not
>>conform to levitical law or puritanical orthodoxy or
>>any other such list of rules or "sins". rather it is
>>about relationships between people. this is something
>>that has been completely devalued by many. thankfully
>>there is an emergence of people who are embracing the
>>desire to authentically understand christian response
>>to god, not just in community of christ, but across
>>all denominations. it is a revival of paul's
>>proclamation and central claim.
>>happily we are leaving the distortions, the condemning
>>attitudes and misplacced priorities behind. those of
>>you who want to focus on those and flog others with
>>them may gladly have them....they are yours.
>>likewise, you are always welcome to come and be a
>part.
>
>Matt, the PC crowd has simply redefined sin to suit
>themselves. Part of what suits them about this new
>definition is that they have new grounds to flog other
>people. That's where the superciliousness of neopagan
>Christolopia.
>
>When God told Moses to warn the Israelites about
>homosexuality, the global pagan culture of the time
>actually celebrated homosexuality. When St. Paul told
>his flock that homosexuality was still wrong, even
>though Jesus had risen from the dead with forgiveness
>for all, the pagan Roman culture had already begun to
>celebrate homosexuality in a way that made even the
>conservative pagans uneasy. Thus your false claim
>that God suddenly looks favorably on homosexuality now
>that Christians and Jews have agreed amongst
>themselves to revert to paganism is exposed for what
>it is.
>
>What has happened is that a lot of Christians have
>rejected Christ as their king, and have preferred to
>reduce him to a lower status in order to return to the
>days of the Judges, when "every man did what was right
>in his own eyes." Everybody doing his own thing, with
>the bandaid of pretending to follow social conventions
>is basically the main argument of the "diversity"
>cults such as the Community of Christ.
>
>I ordinarily would say that this is a free country and
>that you may believe and do as you like, but the
>situation is completely out of my hands. As you recall
>from the preface to Huxley's "Brave New World,"
>government accepatance and promotion of polysexuality
>is what a dictatorship grudgingly provides for its
>citizens to compensate them for their complete loss of
>any other freedoms. It is a one-sided bargain, and I
>do not choose to enter it voluntarily, no matter what
>sophistry is offered in its defense.
>
>George
as you choose, george.
blessings

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