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Date Posted: 09:51:04 11/08/09 Sun
Author: mixed with comments
Subject: Autumn Feis

The venue space was awesome. Never felt crowded. Lunch line was terrible....that can be resolved, I'm sure (although the hot dog was delicious!)Judges...uggh! I am soooo tired of predjudice judges. Retire already!!!!!

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[> great Venue!Nice drive up, food was Good, and there was plenty of room...thank-you Dennehy!Its nice to be able to go and support our Midwest dance schools -- mw dancer, 10:05:17 11/08/09 Sun


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[> What do you guys think of rotating judges? How often should it be done on a stage where the dancer dances 6 dances all day? -- Never rotated our judge!, 10:21:28 11/08/09 Sun


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[> judging was awful and biased! -- No name, 10:24:37 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> You have been ID for how long? -- -, 10:36:29 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> 6 yrs! -- No name, 10:39:11 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> [> how long? -- op, 10:40:49 11/08/09 Sun

8 years!

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[> We rotated the judges, and attempted to move the judges if they were about to judge the same group more than 2 times. We also try to keep stages moving, so don't want too many switches. Sorry if your competitions didn't get rotated! -- Chicago Autumn Feis Committee, 10:31:08 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> Don't rotate...hire new judges. It's as simple as that! more... -- op, 10:53:28 11/08/09 Sun

It is such common knowledge that judges don't like certain schools (or their steps)yet these judges are the same ones we see all over the midwest. I assure you this is not sour grapes or poor sportsmanship. This is the voice of someone who has spent thousands and thousands of dollars over the last 8 years. I am just tired of judges who fall asleep at the table, need numbers read off for them, speak with owners of dance schools right at a stage in front of competitors, and clearly don't rank the best dancers. All those who feel the same way, we need to say "enough" and boycott these feis' that keep hiring the same judges.

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[> [> [> I agree! -- No name, 11:47:17 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Me too!!! -- No name, 13:38:33 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> Ditto! Same judges 2 weekends in a row -Too much$$$, for ... -- all the politics involved!, 14:30:30 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> Didn't rotate judges on stage 1 morning. Felt sorry for that group of dancers in grades for 5 or 6 dances. -- No name, 19:53:50 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> you are on to something I think I will request -- No name, 12:49:09 11/09/09 Mon

at my daughters High School softball games that the umpire behind the plate calling balls & strikes be rotated throughout the game. It's only fair right ?

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[> "predjudice judges. - Retire already" these statements don't relate -- rethink, 10:39:40 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> I think what the op is saying is that many of the judges are old and need to retire. These older judges like and place the older school dancers. Prejudice judes and retire already do relate, i my opinion. -- No name, 11:56:59 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> I agree! I also get tired of seeing these same judges at every feis. -- No name, 12:23:23 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> I think you should take your concerns to your TC (if you are not one) and listen to the responce they give you. -- What is too old to teach and judge?, 14:09:23 11/08/09 Sun


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[> HUH DD HAD same Judge for 3 dances then the next judge for 2 great rotation -- No name, 13:21:38 11/08/09 Sun


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[> Same here--DD had same judge for all 3 hard shoe dances! Not fair to anyone. -- No name, 13:25:35 11/08/09 Sun


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[> Thank you Autumn Feis for a great feis!! Only 1 issue for one of my DD dances according to the results posted at the feis she didn't get anything but onlin it shows she got 2nd we left and didn't even get a medal -- No name, 13:29:35 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> went home feeling low -- No name, 17:07:35 11/08/09 Sun

Same thing happened to my child!!!

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[> [> geez! I think this has happened to most people -- who says everyone goes home with something, 17:26:34 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> No one says everyone goes home with something and it did not happen to "most people" -- No name, 19:06:02 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> [> I think the point there was that they earned the medal and it was not offered to them. Don't think that happens very often. -- ., 21:40:03 11/08/09 Sun


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[> [> Contact the Feis directly - they will send your dd the metal. This happened to us in St. Louis and the Feis was VERY Nice about getting my dd her metal -- Milw Mom, 17:29:02 11/08/09 Sun


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[> Think the judges were fair and unbiased -- No name, 20:37:33 11/08/09 Sun

Our daughter dances for what might be the newest school in the region and it didn't seem to affect our kids with the judges (contrary to the comment about the judges favoring the older schools). We didn't have many dancers at the feis, but every one of them placed in at least one dance. The transfers also placed in more dances (and higher placements) than they placed in their prior schools. Also, we only had the same judge for two dances one time. The venue had plusses and minuses,but the feis was run well and the Judging was good. Maybe it is the steps and not the "bias" of the judges.

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[> It is difficult to get judges to leave their classes for a week-end proior to everyone's O. -- Need more judges, 09:53:22 11/09/09 Mon


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[> The list of judges was posted in August on the website. That's up to you to decide if you want to enter. -- No name, 10:18:53 11/09/09 Mon


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[> Judges -- No name, 18:18:50 11/09/09 Mon

Most feises post judges after you sign up and offer no refund if you are unhappy.

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[> [> POSTING OF ADJUDICATORS -- itk, 21:02:05 11/09/09 Mon

It is an NAFC/IDTANA RULE that ALL FEISANNA MUST POST their adjudicators a minimum of THREE WEEKS PRIOR to the CLOSING DATE OF ENTRIES

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[> [> [> Posting -- No name, 22:09:11 11/09/09 Mon

But some of us plan our lives more than three weeks ahead.

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[> [> [> [> well then-you take the risk -- shrug, 23:34:12 11/09/09 Mon


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[> [> [> As I said the judges were posted in August, that is 3 months before the feis. Plenty of time to sign up. It was not 3 weeks before. If judges are anissue with you then check out the Adjudicator list before you sign up. It was posted the first week of August. -- No name, 07:35:21 11/10/09 Tue


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