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Date Posted: 08/23/01 15:00:19
Author: qiziqchi
Subject: Re: Ë ni É dep alayli(Jawaplar)
In reply to: adm. 's message, "Ë ni É dep alayli(Jawaplar)" on 08/23/01 14:55:03

Abduryimning til-aldi, til-keyni jettin sheryileshlirige taza qosuhulup ketelmidim. Mengiche, sewep til-aldi, til-keyni tawushlar tupeylidin emes. Chunki "éyiq" diki 'é' eripi tilshunasliqta emiliyette til-aldi sozuq tawush. Abduriyim uni til-keyni digen, emiliyette bolsa u til-aldi sozuq tawush.
Lekin Abdiryimning 'ë' ning boghum ayrish jeettiki rolidin chushendurushi nahayiti qayil qilarliq boluptu, shuning uchunmu 'é' ni tallishimiz kerek-dep oylaymen.
Lekin tilshunasliq jeette "éyiq" diki 'é' bolsa til-aldi sozuq tawush, uning til-keyni shekli bolsa Henzuche "a, o, e" diki 'e', bu tawush bolsa Uyghurchida yoq, Henzuchida we Englizchida bar.

Shunga Warisning "guzellik" jeettiki sheryileshlirimu toghra, yeni eger 'ë' ni alsaq u halda ustide ikki chekiti bar tawushlarning emmisi birdek til-aldi sozuq tawush bolidu-guzellik emelge ashidu.
Lekin buning bilen tilshunasliq jeette mundaq zidiyet kelip chiqidu:
'ë' ning mewjutliqi we uning til-aldi tawush bolghanliqi, 'e' ning shu tawushning til-keyni shekli bolup oqulishi kerekligini bildurup qalidu. Dimek tebii halda 'e' ni Hezuche "a, o, e" diki 'e' dep oqushimizgha toghra kelidu. Chuni Hezuche "a,o, e" diki 'e' bolsa del "éqiq" diki 'é' ning til-keni shekli. Lekin emiliyette biz 'e' ni "adem" diki "e" dep oqushni bekittuq. Shuning bilen tilshunasliqta zidiyet kelip chiqidu. Mushu sewep tupeylidin Mir Sultan ependimmu "éyiq" dep yezish kerek dep tekitligen-dep oylaymen.

Emiliyette 'é' ni elish idiyisini Warisjan ozi bizge birinchi bildurgen, emdi gepidin yeniweliwatidu (shunga necche qetim uninggha chaqchaq qildim), u otkende 'Jawap'-dep mundaq yazghan:

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Mirsultan ependi, e(eynek) ni e dep alghan teqdirdimu ë(ëyiq) üchün ë ni ëlishqa bolmaydighanliqini, é(éyiq --- solgha yantu) yaki è(èyiq ---onggha yantu) dëgendek alsa yaxshiraq bolidighanliqini tekitlidi. Diqqet: Lëkin, e(eynek) ni e dep alsaq bolidu dep ening ipade bildürmidi. Buni qayta mutixesisler gorupisi teshkillep bëkitish këreklikini tewsiye qildi.
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Dimek Warisjanmu etirap qilghan "Zamanimizdiki eng ataqliq tilshunas" bolghuchi Mir Sultan ependining idiyisini bizge yetkuzdi. Biz shundaq ohshaydu-dep tursaq, emdi kelip yene bir Tilshunasni kotirip elip chiqti:

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Tilshunas Muhebbet Qasimmu é gha qarighanda ë ning heqiqeten yaxshiliqini körsetken.>>>>

Warisjanning yene uchunchi Tilshunasni kotirip elip chiqishini kutup turuptuq (chaqchaq).

Dimek, Warisjan ozi bilip-bilmey qarshimu-qarshi ikki idiyeni otturigha qoydi. Bu emiliyette erqandaq eqil igisige soaldin birni qoyup qoyudu we bizni oylandurushqa undeydu. Shunga meningche bolghanda Warisjan bizdin aghrinmasliqi kerek. Chunki menmu Warisjangha ohshash Mir Sultan ependige choqunimen, shunga uning oylimay bir nersini dimeydighanlighini bilimen. Dimek 'é' bilen bilen 'ë' ikkilisila kengeytilgen rayonda, lekin aldinqisini Mirsultan ependni qet'i halda tallighan, buni Warisjan yeniwalimen-depmu yeniwalalmaydu-elwette, ishenmisingiz Warisjanning "Jawap" digen doklatini yene bir qetim oqup beqing.

Warisjan, siz digendek elwette siz "til-shunas" emes, lekin Mir Sultan ependi tilshunas. Yazghan doklatingizni oqighan erqandaq eqil igisi elwette nime uchun Mir Sultan ependining "é" ni ewzel digenligige qiziqidu-elwette.

Shunga meningche bolghanda bu Muzakirining chiqishini Abduriyimdin korushke bolmaydu, emiliyette bundaq muzakire chiqmaqmighan bolsa ejeplinerliq bolar idi, em siz choqum kopchilikdin renjishingiz kerek bolar-idi. Chunki shundaq eniq yezilghan yerdin soal sorimisaq, dimek biz sizning yazghan dokaltingizni tepsili oqimighan bolimiz-elwette. Eger yazghanliringizni tepsili oqimisaq, andin renjishingiz kerek idi. Yazghan dokaltingizda eniq qilip 'ëyiq' dep yezishning Tilshunasliq jeette nawuapiq ikenligini bildurdingiz. Emdi bolsa bizge mundaq soaldin birni qoyuq qoydingiz:

" Muhebbet Qasim bilen Mir Sultan ependining birsi hata, ikkisising ichidin birni tallanglar, men, Warisjan, hazir Muhebbet Qasimningkini qollaymen, gerche aldinqi qetimda Mir Sultan akini danglighan bolsammu."

Elwette siz derhal gepingizni ozgertip "Mir Sultan akimu é ni almasliq kerek" yaki "eniq ipade bildurmidi" disingiz bolidu (shundaq dewatisiz), lekin biz tebbi halda kulup ketimiz-de sizge chaqchaq qilishqa bashlaymiz-elwette. Mesilen, mundaq deymiz: "aldinqi qetimqi doklatingizni yazghanda halqa taqighanlarning ichidiki birsini oylap yezip hata yezip qoyupsiz-de?"-dep chaqchaq qilip qoyimiz(chaqchaq).

Bu maqalini qiziqchi saet 2001-08-06.05:44:29 de tehrirligen!

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