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Date Posted: 18:40:44 07/12/01 Thu
Author: Lyn
Subject: Re: Priestcraft
In reply to: Lyn 's message, "Re: Priestcraft" on 11:55:22 07/12/01 Thu

>>>>>>>>>>2 Nephi;11;106 Priestcraft are that men preach
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>set
>>>>>>>>>>themselves up for a light unto the world,that
>>>>they
>>>>>>>>may
>>>>>>>>>>get gain,and praise of the world; Now I will
>>>show
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>that in the land of Zion we have this amonst
>us
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>will show it unto you .And by the revelations
>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>this church I will prove it to you.The name of
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>first branch is Zion's reamnant.And the
>prophet
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>this resteration branch is Bob Baker.Now this
>>>>will
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>given (A) (B) (C) (D) let us go to (A) on the
>>>>>>follow
>>>>>>>>>>up page .I will have to do it first so look
>for
>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>very soon. (A) Let us see if
>>>>>priestcraft
>>>>>>>>>is being practice in the land of Zion.Now let
>us
>>>>go
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>a branch that the Lord told me they were doing
>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>in. And how to no by the word of God that this
>>is
>>>>>>>>>true.The name of the branch is Zions
>Remnant.And
>>>>>now
>>>>>>>>>the one that has set (HIMSELF) up as a light
>>unto
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>world.ANd called himself to the office of an
>>>>>>>>>apostel,then called (HIMSELF) to the office of
>>>>>>>prophet
>>>>>>>>>seer,revelator to the church.His name is Bob
>>>>>>Baker.He
>>>>>>>>>was a seventy in the RLDS church.Now on one of
>>>his
>>>>>>>>>tapes he warnes the people not to go were one
>>>sets
>>>>>>>>>himself up as a prophet and starts a new
>>>>>church.This
>>>>>>>>>tape is available to who ever won'ts it. Now
>>this
>>>>>>>work
>>>>>>>>>that I will do hear will show you that man noes
>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>the power of the word.Even man has power in the
>>>>>>words
>>>>>>>>>he speaks .If he knows the words to speak.But I
>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>>show you that in the words you speak will tell
>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>true nature who you realy are .And what spirit
>>>you
>>>>>>>>>carry.And even your past future and even what
>>>>glory
>>>>>>>>>you will receive on the other side. In the
>words
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>speak.For by the words you speak you will be
>>>>judged
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>the last days. Now let us go and see Bob do
>just
>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>he warned the church not to do .For he when't
>>and
>>>>>>>>>started up a new church and declaired (HIMSELF
>)
>>>>>>>>>prophet seer and revalator of it.Now remember
>>>what
>>>>>>>>>priestcraft is to set oneself up as a light
>unto
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>world to get gain and and prase of the
>>world.This
>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>comeing up on (B) I have to do this are my
>>>>computor
>>>>>>>>>will fail on my long nots.So we will now go to
>>>(B)
>>>>>>By
>>>>>>>>his own words and revalations to his church I
>>will
>>>>>do
>>>>>>>>this work.Just as the lord told the priesthood I
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>in the message (THE WORD) Now many will say by
>>>what
>>>>>>>>power and authority do you do this work Lyn.This
>>>is
>>>>>>>>what I say to them .By the power of the Holy
>>>>>Ghost.By
>>>>>>>>the power of the word do I do this work .It is
>>>>>>written
>>>>>>>>the saints in Zion will judge those that say
>they
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>Prophets and apostels and are not.Now let us
>>watch
>>>>>>him
>>>>>>>>call (HIMSELF ) to the office of an apostel.Even
>>>>>>>>before he has a church.Remember the aposles in
>>>>>Josoph
>>>>>>>>Smith days were not called untell after the
>>church
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>formed and it was not Josoph that called them
>>.His
>>>>>>>>c,section 21;6 My body,My church must once again
>>>be
>>>>>>>>organized to provide order to My work in these
>>>last
>>>>>>>>days. Now in the words just spoken is many
>>>>>mysterys.I
>>>>>>>>will show you even though in Bobs revelations to
>>>>his
>>>>>>>>church when he said if you do not provide for
>him
>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>every need I will withold from you the mysterys
>>of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>kingdom.For I have not provided him nothing and
>I
>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>>show you that many no the mysterys of God that
>>>even
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>noes not of.This was told him in his message to
>>>him
>>>>>>>>already. Now back to the revalation once again.
>>He
>>>>>>>>said his church must once again be
>>>orgenised.(STOP)
>>>>>>My
>>>>>>>>grandchild just got up Back in a minute. Im
>>>>>back
>>>>>>>now if the lord said to Josoph D&C 105;12a For
>>>>>>>youn(THE TWELVE) and those the first preisdency
>>who
>>>>>>>are appointed with you, to be your counselors and
>>>>>your
>>>>>>>leaders,is the Power of this priesthood
>given,(FOR
>>>>>THE
>>>>>>>LAST DAYS AND FOR THE LAST TIME,)in the which is
>>>the
>>>>>>>dispensation of the (FULLNESS) of times.Now did
>>God
>>>>>>>forget he had already said that once? Are was it
>>>>that
>>>>>>>Bob did not no he said that.For I have a tape
>were
>>>>he
>>>>>>>says God never said that .But hear it is .A
>>mystery
>>>>>>>for the prophet.For as he said in the book of
>>>Mormon
>>>>>>>to whom did I give you a bill of devorcement to
>>>whom
>>>>>>>have I sold you ?No you not that I am marred to
>>>her?
>>>>>>>And the gates of hell will not prveal against
>>>>her.Now
>>>>>>>were are all the wise men at that the lord has
>>>>called
>>>>>>>to gather in. Did he not just say for the last
>>>>>time.If
>>>>>>>God changes not then what think you in all your
>>>>>>>wisdom.Be carful in all your wisdom you are not
>>>lost
>>>>>>>to the kingdom.I have a message I gave to the
>>>>>>>resteration two years in a role to put the
>offices
>>>>>>>back in order. But even as Bob and Etter and I we
>>>>>have
>>>>>>>not understood what he said.I have a page on this
>>>>>>>subject I will put on hear soon by the mouth of
>>>>three
>>>>>>>that are receiveing.And not one see's it .But by
>>>>>>>looking at the three we will see the will of God
>>>>even
>>>>>>>if we can't as one.For what he says to one he has
>>>>>also
>>>>>>>said to the others.This is how you may no the
>will
>>>>of
>>>>>>>God and not your own wisdom. The paper to look
>for
>>>>on
>>>>>>>this is going to be called the 3 book of
>Jacob.For
>>>I
>>>>>>>will use the word of God to show this is his
>>>>will.Now
>>>>>>>back to Bob.Now Let us see him call (HIMSELF) to
>>be
>>>>a
>>>>>>>prophet.And a seer,a revelator to the church by
>>his
>>>>>>>own mouth. Now what man in the church has ever
>>been
>>>>>>>called by his own mouth to a priesthood.Am I the
>>>>only
>>>>>>>one hear that see's that this is contrey to God's
>>>>>>>pattern? It is written you are not to take this
>>>>order
>>>>>>>upon your self.As he did.(STOP) my grandchild is
>>>>>>>hungrey you can see that the devil will try to
>>stop
>>>>>me
>>>>>>>but I (will) be back. Im back. Before we
>>>>continu.Let
>>>>>>me show this church a mystery in Bobs revelation
>>>they
>>>>>>see not .I will prove that many of the revelations
>>>to
>>>>>>his church was given to Bob and he past them on to
>>>>>>another.And in the revalations God tells them
>>>>>>this.Csection 201;11b Many wereto busy pointing
>the
>>>>>>finger at others,and refused to accept the fact I
>>>was
>>>>>>speaking to them.Now this hole revelation was
>given
>>>>to
>>>>>>Bob and he did just that .Hegave it to some one
>>>>>>else.Now I will prove it to you.Let us go to
>>>>>>201;19,f,g,h,i He has coveted priesthood offices
>>>that
>>>>>>are not with in his calling. Rather than preparing
>>>>>>himself to minister to the members of the church
>in
>>>>>>his own office and calling,he has unsuccessfully
>>>>tried
>>>>>>to minister in offices that are not within his
>>>>>>authority ,in his hart he has sought a leadership
>>>>role
>>>>>>that is not his to hold.He has deceived some but
>he
>>>>>>can not deceive me
>>>>> Now who is it that is the leader of
>>>>>your branch? Who is it that gave his own call to
>>this
>>>>>office.Need I show you ?Why is it that you are with
>>>>>out knowledge? You have thew words before you yet
>>you
>>>>>let the arm of flesh lead you not the gift of the
>>>Holy
>>>>>Ghost,which would lead you to all truth's.In your
>>>>>c,section it is written that he has given authorty
>>to
>>>>>some that is not his place to give. Who is the lord
>>>>>talking about ?For who is it in your branch that
>has
>>>>>given all the offices of priesthood even his own ?
>>Is
>>>>>it not Bob ? Then who do you feel the lord is
>>talking
>>>>>about. You must look as the lord told you in your
>>>>>revelation.I fear for the saints in this branch.You
>>>>>are to study all the revelation's since you first
>>>time
>>>>>you cam togeather. For you will see that the lord
>>has
>>>>>shown you this day in it .Now let us move on to
>show
>>>>>you he has deceived you .C21;6b this is were he
>>set's
>>>>himself up as an apostle you are to be ordained to
>>the
>>>>office of Apostle by My servant Jack Graves you ,in
>>>>turn are to ordain him to the office of
>>>>Apostle,thereby ,you two will be the first and
>second
>>>>Apostles in the church of these last days. (last
>days
>>>>is what was given to Jasoph in D&C sec 105;12a For
>>>>unto you the (TWELVE) and thoes the first
>presidence,
>>>>who are appointed with you ,to be your counselors
>and
>>>>your leaders,is the power of this priesthood given
>>>>,for the (Last DAYS),and for the (LAST TIME)in the
>>>>wich is the dispensation of the (FULLNESS) of time.
>>So
>>>>his revelation could not have been from God .Are it
>>>>would make God a lier.And he would not know all
>>>>things.Besides the apostles were not put in the
>>church
>>>>untell after the church was formed.Petter,james and
>>>>John apeared to Joseph and gave the autority to
>>him.He
>>>>did not give it unto himself.As did Bob.Not sence we
>>>>no that priestcraft is one who set himself up as a
>>>>light unto the world.Let us now see him call himself
>>>>to prophet seer and revelator to the church.Let us
>go
>>>>to his C24 section 1,f .you are tio be ordained to
>>the
>>>>office of prophet ,that you might be a seer and
>>>>revelator to the church and the world to be
>president
>>>>of the high priesthood. Now all thuis by his own
>>>>voice. He just got full controle of that church. Now
>>>>if that was not enough let us look at what he did
>>>next.Section 37 of his revelations to his church. Now
>>>let us see him say that he along is the leader of
>this
>>>church .2g; He under My direction ,is the final
>>>interpreter of the law. Are you all ,ready to follow
>>>Me as I direct you through My chosen prophet.201;20k
>>>And all revelations address to the church is to be
>>>given through him the prophet.Now I can go on were he
>>>says only through him can this church funtion.This is
>>>setting one self up as a medeator between man and God
>>>.This is priestcraft. For God speaks to the mind of
>>>all men .If you do not prvide his every need I will
>>>withold the mysterys of the kingdom from you .Hear we
>>>will see him go for gain next .Now Bob started a
>>publishing house many years before this church came
>>about to put books out.Now I am showing you that the
>>books are his interpatation of the word of God ,not
>>the word of the lord to him explaining what Gods will
>>is. I will show that they are contrey to the word of
>>God. But in order to be able to wright books he now
>>will give a revelation from God saying the church is
>>now to take upon them this job so that he can have the
>>funds to wright them and to get gain. section c26;6c
>>It is appropriately time now that the leadership of
>>the church begain making arrangments for establishing
>>'Old Path Publishers' as the official publishing arm
>>of the church. Now he has the church paying for his
>>books to be published. On one of his voice tapes he
>>says the first thing a man does is to go and start
>>wrighting books so he can make money .In these
>>revelation we will as time goes on see the money come
>>to his publishing house through demands from God in
>>revelations telling the people to pay for the books
>>are He will sell off there property to get the money
>>.Who by the way has sold some already and most of the
>>people that have left the church said we were not told
>>were the money went.More to come in his revelations
>>bringing more money to him.To get gain.But first he
>give in his sermans (I HAVE THE TAPES TO SHOW THIS TO
>YOU) he will bring it up what he is in need of ,then
>if he does not get it it will then come to the church
>aS A REVELATION FROM gOD TO GET IT FOR HIM ARE gOD
>WILL WITHOLD THE MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM FROM THEM.iN
>HIS TAPES HE SAYS HOW HE DOES NOT OWN A HOUSE . Now
>let us go to his c;section c52;10d I instructed the
>church to establish a house for the prophet in which
>he could both LIVE and translate .Now God now told
>them top get him a house.Now it was not heeded at
>first and this came to the church sec 188;5c And
>again,I say unto you that if you desire the mysterys
>of the kingdom ,provide for him food raiment and
>whatsoever thing he needeth. Sec 188;13b If you now
>require him to return to the world for employment,I
>must keep my promisees and withold from you the
>mysteries of the kingdom.More to come.On give to My
>prophet Give ,Give ,Give.Now on two of his tapes he says how their car is braking down all the time and it would cost more to fix it then it is worth.He is primeing them to get him a car. The next tape and serman is on the law of total concacration. Then in the serman he says again about their car, What would people say if you were to bye us a car. People we can not let what people think stop us from doing for one another. And a women in their branch baught him a car. Sounds like a t.v. evangelist. They also use scriptures to get gain. More to come.

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