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>>The table provided by Anderson is interesting and may >>be accurate with respect to numbers built although >>they seem quite high for the Hemmemmaa's and Turuma's, >>but they definitely diverge significantly in gunnery >>details from information that I have on captured >>Swedish ships in Russian hands. The dimensions are >>close to those taken by the Russians and the >>differences may relate to different systems of >>measurement, but the armament for the Hemmenma's and >>Turuma's is very far off. with respect to both numbers >>and calibres. 24x36 pdrs!!! These <u>must be >>misprints</u> of some sort. I wonder what Anderson's >>source was? >> >>You are correct about the names standing for provinces >>in Finland, at least with respect to Hemmemmaa. All >>the larger types were grouped together in Russian >>service as Shebecks (from Xebec, Zebec, etc in the >>Mediterranean) and were rather similar to the Russian >>rowing frigates. >> >>As for von Pivka, he immediately irritated me by >>referring to "the Englishman Chapman". May Jan Glete's >>ghost haunt this Prussian to the end of time! Fredrik >>Henrik af Chapman had an English father, but was >>Swedish to the core in upbringing,culture,and >>loyalties. While he may have studied in England as a >>teenager (and gotten himself arrested for suspected >>espionage while sneaking around English shipyards). >>Von Pivka's remarkable habit of discoursing eloquently >>on subjects that he knows nothing about and then >>making a fool of himself over essential facts is >>legendary. But the drawings and text are helpful. >> >>Again in your debt, >>John Tredrea > >Nothing by Anderson on this subject in the first 14 >years of <i>Mariner's Mirror</i>, up to 1930. Given >that <i>Naval Wars in the Baltic</i> was published in >1910, if he didn't write anything there by 1930, he >probably didn't do it all, and I can't think of anyone >else who would have. I don't have time for a more >extensive search now. If you still need more info in >a couple of weeks, ask again.

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