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Date Posted: 12:46:16 10/30/09 Fri
Author: carl brechler
Subject: Re: Swedish Galleys and Rowing Frigates
In reply to: John Tredrea 's message, "Re: Swedish Galleys and Rowing Frigates" on 11:08:25 10/30/09 Fri

Hi.

Mike wrote:

snip

>Thanks Carl.

>I think that I have opened a can of worms that I can't
>pursue at present! I thought that the Russian
>shebecks, all 8 of which were built in 1788 (the 1st)
>and 1789 (the next 7)along with 10 half-shebecks
>all in response to the Swedish designs
! Turunmmaas
>and hememmaas captured by the Russians occasionally
>had two bow 24pdrs, but the broadside guns were
>12pdrs–not 36 pdrs.Possibly Chapman designed the
>hememmaas for 36pdrs and they were given 12pdrs
>instead?

>Mike

At least some (one) of the hemeenmaa’s carried 36 pounders. On April 28, 1813 the hemeenmaa frigate “Birger Jarl” sank after springing a leak. The wreck was discovered and investigated by the Danes beginning in 1960. They found 22 36 pounder cannon and 10 24 pounder carronades at the wreck site.

The Swedish archives indicate that the ship was built in 1809, along with her sister “Erik Segersäll.”

The information is from the following website:

www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/birg_jarl.htm

carl

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