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>>Hi. >> >>Mike wrote: >> >>snip >> >>>Thanks Carl. >> >>>I think that I have opened a can of worms that I >can't >>>pursue at present! I thought that the Russian >>>shebecks, all 8 of which were built in 1788 (the 1st) >>>and 1789 (the next 7)along with 10 half-shebecks <u> >>>all in response to the Swedish designs</u>! >Turunmmaas >>>and hememmaas captured by the Russians occasionally >>>had two bow 24pdrs, but the broadside guns were >>>12pdrs–not 36 pdrs.Possibly Chapman designed the >>>hememmaas for 36pdrs and they were given 12pdrs >>>instead? >> >>>Mike >> >>At least some (one) of the hemeenmaa’s carried 36 >>pounders. On April 28, 1813 the hemeenmaa frigate >>“Birger Jarl” sank after springing a leak. The wreck >>was discovered and investigated by the Danes beginning >>in 1960. They found 22 36 pounder cannon and 10 24 >>pounder carronades at the wreck site. >> >>The Swedish archives indicate that the ship was built >>in 1809, along with her sister “Erik Segersäll.” >> >>The information is from the following website: >> >>www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/birg_jarl.htm >> >>carl > >Thanks Carl! Verrrry Interesting! I doubt if many >Forum readers are old enough, American enough, or >idiotic enough besides myself to recognize the source >for that quote :-) > >John Tredrea

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