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Date Posted: 18:39:55 03/05/04 Fri
Author: GGsBrother
Author Host/IP: 208.185.179.196
Subject: Gunn's "Betrayal"
In reply to: Kuzibah 's message, "Angel 5:16- "Shells" (SPOILERS)" on 10:29:07 03/04/04 Thu

Lots made about Gunn's betrayal in the ep, but I don't get it. He got tricked, he didn't betray anyone. I mean, it's not like the custom form he signed said "Item 1: Fred killing demon" did it? So how is that a betrayal?

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[> [> Re: Gunn's "Betrayal" -- Kuzibah, 00:44:45 03/06/04 Sat (68.80.18.137)

It's a betrayal because he thinks it is. He says he didn't think signing that paper would hurt anyone he knew, which implies he knew someone would be hurt or die. As long as it wasn't anyone he cared about, it didn't matter.

But seeing Fred die, and knowing he had a part in it, he realizes the price he paid to upgrade his brain was too high. Yes, in pure terms, he was less responsible than Knox or the doctor, who knew exactly what they were doing, but to himself, he shouldn't have taken an action he knew would hurt another, even a stranger. Up until now, he's been better than W&H, uncorruptable. But now he realizes he's as base as any of them; he's aware of his own fall. That's why he never argued or defended himself, and why he offered his own life for Fred's safe return.


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[> [> Re: Gunn's "Betrayal" -- Mcookies, 19:15:41 03/07/04 Sun (205.188.209.73)

Thanks, GGsBrother for saying the same thing I was thinking. I was quite befuddled. And thanks Kuzibah for explaining it. I had forgotten about the "hurt someone he knew" comment.


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