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Date Posted: 01:38:12 03/21/03 Fri
Author: Jess
Subject: More sch comments
In reply to: :-) 's message, "oops, you didnt want this to scroll of the board, didja?" on 12:04:26 01/12/03 Sun

I find some of this very interesting, as I have an AST/APBT (out of an international Gr CH schz dog btw) that shows GREAT potential in tracking. All of her family on her Dam's side tracks daily as well.

Leah has a APBT (Lar San lines) that is one of the best trackers that Leah has ever trained.

The indiscrepency between what her biggest problem was in obedience is interesting as well. Either it was the long down or it was the heeling on lead, it can't be both. Tugging when heeling on lead is a product of the trainer, not something that is wrong with the dog. Its very easy to correct, and even easier not to train into the dog in the first place.

As far as the long downs with other dogs around...my girls grand dam is a pretty hot dog, but was in the midst of a long down when another dog broke its down and came over to her and starting messing with her. She stayed in her long down and stared at her handler the entire time and didn't go after the other dog. It IS possible to supress and train an AST to behave around other dogs. Not for EVERY AST, but it IS possible!

>>
>>The AmStaff that we put a Sch II on was a horrid
>>tracker--had no interest at all, and you do not
>>force-track a dog like an AmStaff. For the record, I
>>am not a proponent of force-tracking any dog, but I
>>have made rare exceptions over the years when the dog
>>was capable of scoring in the mid to high 90s
>>elsewhere in the trial.
>>
>>But this AmStaff simply did not "get it" when it came
>>to even the cursory basics of tracking. Other AmStaffs
>>that came through the club displayed the same
>>tendencies. Generally, there was just no interest (or
>>drive) displayed by them on the tracking field. If I
>>remember correctly, this particular dog never scored
>>above a 75 on both occasions in which we put the
>>titles on her.
>>
>>Obedience was hot and cold--very inconsistent dog. Her
>>owner was an experienced trainer and handler, and
>>pretty knowledgeable about the breed. Her other breed
>>was Boxers--another dog this day and age that is
>>difficult to put a schutzhund title on (even though
>>for the longest time in Germany, they were second in
>>popularity only to the GSD for schutzhund work).
>>
>>This AmStaff's biggest problem in the obedience was
>>heeling on-leash--heeling off-leash was not a problem,
>>but anytime she had a leash on her, it was a constant
>>tug. That is where she also lost the most points. The
>>retrieving exercises were iffy as well--although her
>>ability to clear the brush hurdle and negotiate the
>>seven-foot wall was pure poetry in motion.
>>
>>But this dog's biggest problem in obedience was
>>maintaining the long down while the other dog was
>>executing its obedience routine. Depending on her
>>"mood," she was bad for breaking the long-down and
>>going after the other dog--especially during the other
>>dog's long recall or send-away.

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