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where & when is the next TOPMA race? -- TOPMA FAN, 11:35:38 06/15/08 Sun
can't wait!

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DENTON..SATURDAY NIGHT (NT) -- YEE HAW, 18:33:49 06/16/08 Mon

Its a shame -- NO 2 Fan, 15:02:06 06/14/08 Sat
Its just a shame that when I get on the computer after every Topma race I cant seem to find the results. Whats
seems to be the problem here with this and it just not this race but all of them this year. We support you by coming out and sometimes cant here the way the ladder ended up and would like to see the complete race ladder
on the message board like it use to be in previous years.
Just questioning whats going on.

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u might wait till they get back from a 2 day race, which today they are in houston, before u start cryin again (NT) -- get real, 15:40:36 06/14/08 Sat
- Why not go to the tracks results page for the info. I was looking at the Texas Raceway web site and saw the results this afternoon. (NT) -- God helps those who help themselves. TOPMA RULES!, 19:03:36 06/14/08 Sat
- I was getting real. No results at this time for a two day race! That's fine but what about the rest of the race results from previous races that were never posted (NT) -- N0 2 Fan, 23:23:48 06/14/08 Sat
  - why dont you come to the track, with your attitude I know your family wants your but out of the house (NT) -- moody ass, 13:10:44 06/16/08 Mon

July 5th Evadale - True 10's and Ultimate Street -- Bonnie, 00:58:48 06/15/08 Sun

See you at the races,

Bonnie

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Bonnie are you guaranteeing these payouts and not basing it on car count for the race? (NT) -- Summer :)), 11:24:30 06/15/08 Sun
- If you dont get 16 car count is that in each class, then it's dropped? (NT) -- Not worth the drive if its dropped, 11:26:09 06/15/08 Sun

Tulsa -- Pain pill, 09:34:54 06/15/08 Sun
yes or no?????? race or not????? what's up with all this @#$%

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maybe if you would go to adrl website, you would see its cancelled (NT) -- duh, 10:32:25 06/15/08 Sun

congratulations on your 3:87 pass taylor racing . -- TOPMA CARS RULE!!!!, 09:14:40 06/15/08 Sun
maybe less cars for now,but TEXAS is home to the best PROMODS.

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Results from Houston Motorsports Park -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 19:25:20 06/14/08 Sat
First Round Qualifying:

1 Frankie Taylor 4.0137ET @158.23mph 0.177 RT
2 Thomas Myers 4.0391ET @ 176.96mph 0.1632 RT
3 Ken Thomas 4.0488ET @ 179.86mph 0.1633 RT
4 Heath Harvey 4.375ET @167.29mph 0.523RT
5 Eric Clark 4.5104ET @ 155.01mph 0.0836RT
6 Kenny Hubbard 4.811ET @ 162.87mph 0.1589RT
6 Todd Moyer 5.4130et @ 12931MPH -0.4000RT

Both Taylor and Myers shutoff early

NitroArt.com

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Wow thanks Wes (NT) -- :)), 19:33:53 06/14/08 Sat
7 cars? Wow (NT) -- Ed, 20:00:57 06/14/08 Sat
15 at kennedale (NT) -- nice show, 08:41:02 06/15/08 Sun

thanks for keeping us ft worth fan updated . congratultions to thomas & rebeca on yalls win! -- ft worth fan, 23:52:28 06/14/08 Sat
TOPMA RULES!!!!

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Final Round HMP -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 23:28:15 06/14/08 Sat
Myers wins over Taylor with a 4.13ET @ 167.35mph run to Taylor's 4.75ET @ 98.64mph. Frankie Taylor had to lift about mid track after getting close to the wall. Congrats to Slick Lil Slick and Clutch

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(NT) -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 23:45:05 06/14/08 Sat

did anyone catch the white camaro on video up on two wheels? -- good save!, 21:03:50 06/14/08 Sat
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Randall Reid's? (NT) -- wow, 22:32:05 06/14/08 Sat
Is his new car the Primetime Car that Matt Hagan had for sale? (NT) -- fan, 23:12:20 06/14/08 Sat

Semi Final Round Results Houston Motorsports Park...

Myers’ 4.01ET @ 183.15mph run knocks Thomas out of competition. Ken Thomas went 4.29ET @137.07mph.

Frankie Taylor came to race tonight. He shot the car straight down Broadway with a blistering 3.87ET @ 185.41mph. The fans went nuts.

Final round coming up soon. It’s Frankie Taylor vs Thomas Myers -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 22:41:46 06/14/08 Sat
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(NT) -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 22:53:55 06/14/08 Sat

Results from after second round qualifying at Houston Motorsports Park -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 20:43:11 06/14/08 Sat
Second Round Qualifying Action:

1 Thomas Myers 4.007ET @ 181.52mph 0.0826 RT
2 Frankie Taylor 4.0137ET @158.23mph 0.177 RT
3 Ken Thomas 4.0455ET @ 179.93mph 0.1259 RT
4 Heath Harvey 4.2794ET @170.52mph 0.174RT
5 Eric Clark 4.5104ET @ 155.01mph 0.0836RT
6 Todd Moyer 4.6567ET @ 125.98MPH 1.1948RT
7 Kenny Hubbard 4.6675ET @ 163.93mph 0.1235RT

Myers moves up to #1 spot bumping Taylor down to #2. Taylor's first pass was better than round two.

Todd Moyer blew top off of intake and went through the hood. They are repairing the intake and will be back first round eliminations.

First Round Elimination Ladder

T. Myers ---Bye Run
Harvey vs Clark
Taylor vs Hubbard
Thomas vs Moyer

Wes Strom
NitroArt.com

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Tonight's results for theTexas Outlaw ProMods is being brought to you by....
Texas Raceway-Kennedale Texas....
Sneed Family Racing and Big Al The Snake Sneed-Grand Prairie TX ...
thanks guys for being a NitroArt.com sponsor and supporting TOMPA -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 20:53:37 06/14/08 Sat
What a true sportsman to share some results with us (NT) -- THANK YOU (#4 Fan), 21:03:49 06/14/08 Sat
HMP -- MONGOOSE, 22:11:00 06/14/08 Sat

First Round Elimination Results
T. Myers ran a 4.0216 ET @ 180.65mph on a competition bye run.Eric Clark lost to Frankie Taylor’s 4.1319 ET @ 149.30mph pass. Clark’s time was 4.6203ET @135.05mph.
After doing his burnout Heath Harvey had shifter problems and was not able to run against Ken Thomas. The Bird ran a 4.303ET @ 180.65mph. Todd Moyer and Kenny Hubbard only ran in qualify sessions as Test and Tune. Coming up next is semi-final action….. Myers takes on Thomas while Taylor gets the single run -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com, 22:08:30 06/14/08 Sat
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Why did the June 28th TOPMA race just get cancelled?? -- ?, 13:04:16 06/14/08 Sat
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Redline cancelled? (NT) -- :((, 14:26:53 06/14/08 Sat
yeah I got a email from them too (NT) -- fan, 17:28:32 06/14/08 Sat

frankie we miss ya! -- ft worth fan, 22:40:58 06/13/08 Fri
will you be out to baytown tomorow,might make the trip

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we will be at hmp today-come on out!!! sorry we did not make it to kennedale. we didnt get the truck back in time to leave and that gave us more time to work some other bugs out of the car. (NT) -- TAYLOR RACING, 09:18:56 06/14/08 Sat

Congrats to Ken Thomas and Thomas Motorsports Crew on your win tonight. Still Mr. Consistancy! Good Luck at HMP Saturday. -- #1 Fan, 01:26:52 06/14/08 Sat
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Any body besides me see that string running down the track (NT) -- String Puller ! Good Show Ken & Company, 07:25:51 06/14/08 Sat

Thanks to Frankie Taylor and crew. I've been out of town on a motorcycle ride and haven' t had a chance to thank the Mad Man and crew for trailering us, the car, and gear to Martin when we broke down. Thanks again everyone it was a great gesture. I owe you. Let me know anytime I can return the favor. Steve Gormn -- .Steve Gorman, 07:23:03 06/14/08 Sat
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TOPMA rules 15 pro mods in round one qualifing.bird #1@4:08 -- cool, 19:42:11 06/13/08 Fri
kick $

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TOPMA rules 15 pro mods in round one qualifing.bird #1@4:08 -- Not there, 21:11:26 06/13/08 Fri
1'st round quickest pass,Tom Slick ,4:01@181mph -- gaylen&bird still in, 22:09:54 06/13/08 Fri
Glad to be there to see all the promods WOW that was worth the trip (NT) -- great show (Thanks TOPMA #4 Fan), 00:42:10 06/14/08 Sat

Friday the 13th....TOPMA @ Kennedale! ROLL CALL -- Who's Gonna Make the Trip?, 10:26:00 06/12/08 Thu
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1st shot at it -- Jim Brinkerhoff, 21:52:19 06/12/08 Thu
- Welcome to TOPMA, Glad to have ya. (NT) -- We race at HMP the next day also, 23:34:45 06/12/08 Thu
Shark needs to come out swinging tonight (NT) -- No crazy driving (bounty with the win), 05:45:25 06/13/08 Fri
Steve Wiley goin tonight (NT) -- friend, 05:47:32 06/13/08 Fri
no can't make it (NT) -- steve (TGR), 11:57:16 06/13/08 Fri
- steves only running big shows (NT) -- ray, 11:59:18 06/13/08 Fri
dang..Is no one goin (NT) -- fan, 12:07:20 06/13/08 Fri
Team TBH will be there. (NT) -- Mrs. TBH, 12:12:27 06/13/08 Fri
No we are not just running big shows we are running what we can afford and when we don't have other obligations. Thanks (NT) -- Steve (TGR), 12:19:07 06/13/08 Fri
THE BAD BIRD AND THE MINI MOD GRAND PRIX ARE ROLLING THAT WAY (NT) -- THOMAS MOTOR SPORTS, 12:37:59 06/13/08 Fri
COULD BE A BLACK BAT HEADING THAT WAY!!!! (NT) -- DONT KNOW FOR SURE, 14:43:48 06/13/08 Fri
Roll Call -- Donna D Super Excited FAN (Excited), 14:46:17 06/13/08 Fri
Reids will b there (NT) -- in the know, 14:51:57 06/13/08 Fri
Excited to see any and all racers tonight! Good Luck guys, and safe racing to ya all! (NT) -- Donna D., 14:54:14 06/13/08 Fri
No Madman this time? (NT) -- Mike, 14:57:33 06/13/08 Fri
Still no WWW? (NT) -- topma #1, 15:36:15 06/13/08 Fri
so no madman tonight ???????? (NT) -- Fans dont want to pay 20 for 5 cars (see yaz), 16:45:57 06/13/08 Fri
TOPMA -- #1 fan, 17:47:24 06/13/08 Fri
Who's Gonna Make the Trip? -- Rippin357, 18:53:25 06/13/08 Fri

Happy Birthday Cindi McMillan -- Mrs. TBH, 12:42:44 06/11/08 Wed
Hope you have a great day and here's hoping we have an UNEVENTFUL Friday the 13th! LOL!

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Happy Birthday Cindi! (NT) -- Ashley and Nikki (Gaylen's Krunk Krew), 15:00:13 06/11/08 Wed
HAPPY B-DAY CINDY (NT) -- from paul & frankie & family - Taylor racing, 15:54:28 06/11/08 Wed
Happy B-day Cindi! (NT) -- The Slicks, 16:21:01 06/11/08 Wed
Happy Birthday (NT) -- TMS, 16:22:07 06/11/08 Wed
Hope you have a Great Birthday Cindi. (NT) -- TMW, 16:57:28 06/11/08 Wed
Happy Birthday Cindi (NT) -- Summer :)), 17:23:55 06/11/08 Wed
- Hope you have a great one! (NT) -- WWW Crew/Haning Racing, 17:28:46 06/11/08 Wed
happy b day cindi !!!!!!! (NT) -- wooten, 21:04:38 06/11/08 Wed
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! (NT) -- howard brown, 21:38:22 06/11/08 Wed
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CINDI We hope you had a good 1 (NT) -- TAYLOR RACING, 22:06:28 06/11/08 Wed
Happy Birthday Cindi!!! Hope the sasparillas were flowing freely (NT) -- Kellomy and Bellomy, 09:15:01 06/12/08 Thu
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND I HOPE IT WAS THE BEST.SEE YOU FRIDAY NIGHT (NT) -- JOSH FREDERICK TMS, 13:22:08 06/13/08 Fri

IS REDLINE HAVING A RACE ON THE 28TH WITH THE TEXAS MOTORPLEX HAVING A PROMOD RACE? -- MAKING PLANS, 10:30:42 06/11/08 Wed
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Yes, would also like to make plans, and if no Red Linr race is the Motorplex a points race. Its not on the schedule. (NT) -- Whats the plan, 11:00:17 06/11/08 Wed
- PRO MODS AT RED LINE (NT) -- JERRY @ RED LINE, (I gave topma all my dates back in jan.we will see.), 22:40:19 06/11/08 Wed
JUST WANTED TO ASK CAUSE THEY SHOW A 10,000 RACE AT ENNIS THE SAME WEEKEND YOU GUYS HAVE REDLINE POSTED JUST ASKING IF IT WAS CHANGING OR STAYING LOCKED IN.NOT THAT IT AINT SUPPORT FOR TOPMA OR REDLINE ITS ABOUT RUNNING FOR TEN GRAND (NT) -- JUST ASKING, 13:13:56 06/13/08 Fri
DIDNT KNOW IF YOU WERE MOVING TO THE 5TH AND HAVING A 4TH OF JULY SHOW (NT) -- TOPMA ROCKS, 13:15:50 06/13/08 Fri

Well it looks like this race is never goin to happen!! This track needs some drainage!! -- get a boat, 21:24:26 06/11/08 Wed
ADRL Tulsa Cancelled Again!!

http://www.promodzone.com//showthread.php?t=13836

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man that really sucks, they need concrete (NT) -- fan214, 21:50:56 06/11/08 Wed
So is Denton back on ?? Lets race.. (NT) -- Steve (TGR), 22:11:02 06/11/08 Wed
- When was Denton ever OFF! (NT) -- TOPMA FAN, 08:03:17 06/12/08 Thu
  - When Denton removed the TOPMA race from their schedule and flyer (NT) -- Thats when, 09:23:00 06/12/08 Thu
Im almost 100% posistive that we will be racing at Denton that weekend, when the ADRL was moved to this date we was gonna reschedule the Denton Race so we could make sure and have plenty Cars and Spectators and now that Tulsa has been cancelled were working on Sponsors to make this happen, hang in there for a couple more days and I will let you know for sure, as of now Plan on Denton for TOPMA (NT) -- Gaylen(TBH), 14:40:29 06/12/08 Thu

2007 44' vintage racing trailer for sale -- Blake, 10:25:41 06/12/08 Thu
I special ordered this trailer in 07 and waited 10 weeks to get it

2007 Vintage outlaw
20 ft living quarters
24 ft garage area
aluminum helmet rack, cloths rack, oil and lube rack, strap racks, tire rack,fuel tank holder (850.00)
big aluminum tool box ($600.00)
5500 watt onan onboard generator with 20 gal fuel cell only has 500 hours on it
Garage has aluminum side walls also has cabinets for storage
3-6k lb axles with goodyear tires

Paid 41,000.00 for the trailer and added over 2000.00 in extras asking 38,500

email address blakeamay@hotmail.com
817-929-4641

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Prescott Race July 4th-5th!! -- Justin, 03:18:31 06/12/08 Thu
Okay TOPMA guys here are our payouts for the race. We tried to put together a good payout so some of you guys could show up. 2 rounds of qualifying on Friday night and atleast 1 round on saturday before eliminations start. Remeber there is a extra thousand dollars up for who ever can leave with the track record in the 3's!!! Here are the payouts....Winner:$4,500 R/U:$1,500 Semis:$600 Quarters:$300!!! Go to prescotraceway.net or arkansasoutlawracing.com for more info. I hope some of you guys will come support our race. Thanks

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OH YEAH, i forgot to thank my life savor, Emily Taylor. Me and Jeremy wouldnt know what to do with out you. You are the best babysitter out there and kadence really loves you. We cant thank you enough for all that you have done for us this year. sorry it took me a bit to post this, im just now getting back to my normall self. But we really do appreciate what you do for us. We love you girl!!! -- Natalie, Jeremy and kadecne, 14:45:47 06/11/08 Wed
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You guys are very welcome! I really loved watching her. She is a great baby. Anytime for you guys.Love you bunchess. (NT) -- Emily..:]], 15:14:18 06/11/08 Wed

Pro Mod Action this weekend!!! -- Mrs. TBH, 20:00:20 06/10/08 Tue
Friday the 13th at Texas Raceway and then Saturday the 14th at HMP! Don't miss out on the action.

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Oh no not another Fri the thirteenth race! (NT) -- Cindi I though you said never again !, 05:37:08 06/11/08 Wed

new car -- hilll billy, 12:53:05 06/09/08 Mon
what is this new car that wes supposivly picked up on the way to michigan ?????????????????????

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big secret or what -- ???, 14:11:05 06/09/08 Mon
Another Pinto (NT) -- totum pole, 19:10:50 06/09/08 Mon
- No it's a Pacer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Pacer Fan, 20:41:45 06/09/08 Mon
so it wasnt clyde scotts new car -- hilll billy, 00:42:09 06/10/08 Tue
JOHN DEERE TRACTOR... don't worry about it.... you will see is soon enough.. (NT) -- get in my pocket, 11:18:40 06/10/08 Tue
how bout this friday @ kenadale -- anxious, 17:21:25 06/10/08 Tue

****'PINKS Armdrop Style Start' @ ADRL*** What are everyone's thoughts on Kenny's decision to do this? Pros/Cons..... -- Rich, 17:10:50 06/09/08 Mon
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not like he had any other choice (NT) -- bad weather sucks, 17:33:36 06/09/08 Mon
Old school !!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Hell yah, the good ol'days, 17:17:04 06/10/08 Tue

We just wanted to thank the WWW team for the transportation this weekend. It was funny trying to fit 10 and 11 people plus a baby in a suburban, we had a great time. hope to yall in Tulsa with the car. Thanks again guys and gals!!!! -- Jeremy, Natalie and Kadence, 18:26:14 06/09/08 Mon
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Thats what makes it fun is everyone pulling together to help each other out! You and your crews have helped us many times and we also appreciate it. And boy, did we get the use out of that rental!!! (NT) -- WWW Crew/Haning Racing, 11:14:04 06/10/08 Tue

Sunday June 15th on Racing Sports Live! ADRL SPECIAL -- Racing Sports Live on 105.3 FM, 21:42:09 06/08/08 Sun

We will feature ADRL President Kenny Nowling and VP of Competition Bubba Corzine! Call in and let's talk drag racing! 10 AM Sunday June 15th!

Listen online!

Racingsportslive.com

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What they going to talk about? How to react of the starting line and what a holeshot win means? (NT) -- Since the tree was broke what we had to do., 15:46:41 06/09/08 Mon
Smartass!!! (NT) -- You don't have a clue!, 21:50:15 06/09/08 Mon

STEVE WILEY AND CREW CONGRATS ON THE WIN AT THE CLASH. -- howard brown, 21:58:52 06/08/08 Sun
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Congrats Steve and Crew on your win. (NT) -- LM, 09:07:26 06/09/08 Mon

Why didnt Wes make a run Q2? -- a fan, 14:23:00 06/07/08 Sat
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Broke a rod, that sux. (NT) -- he will be back soon, 14:48:36 06/07/08 Sat
- They out for the race? (NT) -- fan, 15:01:29 06/07/08 Sat
- Texas racers -- james (??), 17:27:23 06/07/08 Sat
Whats that suppose to mean (NT) -- Ed, 17:45:07 06/07/08 Sat
- frankie & slick? -- James, 19:17:17 06/07/08 Sat
hopefully they can fix it before Tulsa, hate to see them miss a race up thats right up the road (NT) -- Jimmy P, 18:41:10 06/07/08 Sat
I bet that descreet person who said 5 g on Wes is glad he didnt bet (NT) -- need help (all that talk and money still aint down the track), 19:22:54 06/07/08 Sat
Slick won with a 3.983 And Frankie won with a 3.96 (NT) -- ADRL, 19:40:52 06/07/08 Sat
- Way to go slick! Glad to see that thing going good after the bad luck yall had to start off the year. (NT) -- Tommy, 23:51:12 06/07/08 Sat
You can have all the money and the world and that aint got crap to do with part failure (NT) -- get real, 19:42:52 06/07/08 Sat
maybe there was something thye couldnt fix at the track, who knows (NT) -- speedracer, 21:37:30 06/07/08 Sat
WITH THE #S HE HAS RAN HE BETTER GET ALOT OF SPARE STUFF (NT) -- HGD, 22:02:28 06/07/08 Sat
wrong -- couldnt be fixed, 22:55:04 06/07/08 Sat
wow..I wonder what broke besides a rod? (NT) -- topma fan, 00:02:10 06/08/08 Sun
- The motor has a new crank in it. Maybe he should just find a new builder and keep on racing. Not his fault. (NT) -- Blame The Builder, 00:23:20 06/08/08 Sun
  - Who is his engine builder? (NT) -- ??, 01:45:39 06/08/08 Sun
WHO EVER BUILDS HIS MOTORS (SUCK) (NT) -- NEW CAR WANT HELP (GREMLINS STILL THERE FOR 08), 08:15:35 06/08/08 Sun
he got a new car? (NT) -- sorry been busy lately to keep up, 09:49:39 06/08/08 Sun
Wes put that motor together (NT) -- In the know, 10:19:21 06/08/08 Sun
no wonder (NT) -- we want to see Wes do good (get a real builder), 11:04:24 06/08/08 Sun
Maybe the second car has a fresh motor (NT) -- needs one (a builder), 11:06:06 06/08/08 Sun
Heard it was a pinto (NT) -- lol (looking), 11:07:20 06/08/08 Sun
......BLAMINGTHEENGINE BUILDER FOR KICKING THE RODS OUT?? (NT) -- YOU HAVE NO CLUE, 13:49:43 06/08/08 Sun
Im sure wes will tell what happened and if it could've been prevented (NT) -- Sam (Real Builder), 13:59:19 06/08/08 Sun
check them bearings after each run....... (NT) -- CLEVITE, 21:14:34 06/08/08 Sun

L) Billy Harper – 4.228 et – 175.78 mph (**WINNER**) semi's -- mike, 13:52:07 06/08/08 Sun
tree is broke kenny is standing on middle wall using his hands to start

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"SLICK" -- tricky, 16:39:55 06/08/08 Sun
- Slick ran a 3.984 ET at 186.08 mph in the semis. (NT) -- tricky, 16:44:37 06/08/08 Sun
  - But lost to a 4.22 on a holeshot. (NT) -- WOW, 19:38:43 06/08/08 Sun

(L) Wes Johnston – broke -- ADRL, 19:39:14 06/07/08 Sat
(L) Wes Johnston – broke
(R) Bob Mandell – 4.143 et – 172.38 mph (**WINNER**)

Johnston kicked the rods out last night and could not make the call… Mandell has the competition bye & takes an easy ride to the stripe…

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It's a good thing "In The Know" didn't put his money where his mouth is. LOL I get a kick out of all the know it alls around here. Keep up the good work WWW it will pay off soon. -- Promod fan, 15:17:37 06/08/08 Sun

thomas and tayor loss in semis -- mike, 14:01:50 06/08/08 Sun
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-- HMP, 23:43:53 06/06/08 Fri
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Click Here For Race Schedule -- HMP, 00:01:34 06/07/08 Sat
This Is a TOPMA Event Paying TOPMA Purse and Points Fund. (NT) -- HMP, 00:02:55 06/07/08 Sat

ADRL Testing -- me, 15:38:32 06/06/08 Fri
(3:34 pm) Doug Riesterer catches lots of attention pumping out tons of smoke on the left side of the motor... Then he again proves never to doubt the Eagle, running 3.976 @ 182.84 mph!!

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the dang rain is there!! (NT) -- :o(, 16:07:28 06/06/08 Fri
where can we get a entry list (NT) -- ?, 17:32:49 06/06/08 Fri
WWW Gone Zoom Fast in a Hurry 3.77 @ 201 (NT) -- THE BIG BOSS, 19:18:36 06/06/08 Fri
Frankie Zoom Zoom 3.66 @ 216 (NT) -- THE BIG BOSS, 19:30:32 06/06/08 Fri
Just kidding but you never know (NT) -- THE BIG BOSS, 19:53:14 06/06/08 Fri
not true -- in the know, 23:04:21 06/06/08 Fri

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