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Date Posted: 17:15:58 10/07/01 Sun
Author: Blue
Subject: Re: My "That Vision Thing" comments are posted.
In reply to: KhaliG 's message, "Re: My "That Vision Thing" comments are posted." on 16:22:03 10/07/01 Sun


>Oh, I'm sorry. It's just that I saw the name Pilgrim
>Soul at the tag end of a theory on the website that I
>thought that name was just another name for you. Well,
>please let her know that I appreciate her theories.

Yeah, it's no problem. She gave me permission to use that theory. I'll pass your kind words along.

>I agree with this. Over the summer, whenever I saw
>people post about Darla it was always: ooh, she'll
>hook up with Wolfram and Hart to get back at Angel or
>she'll kidnap Cordy and the rest of Angel
>Investigations to get back at Angel. Not to knock
>these ideas, but they were annoying to read because
>they just showed Darla as all black hat, no regard for
>the change she went through by being vamped the second
>time around. I honestly believe that there has been a
>change in Darla 2.0 because in Redefinition she was
>definitely showing emotion towards Angel in a way she
>hadn't before she was staked in Buffy Season 1.

Exactly. When it comes to Angel, for Darla, it's a different story. And you were not the only one annoyed by those assumptions. I think I have a pretty good grasp on the character and no way could I see her doing evil randomly for the sake of it. All that time during season 2 not once did she go after Cordelia and Wesley, and mind you, both of them verbally attacked her in "The Trial" when she was *dying.*

Darla's got class. And I wouldn't be surprised if she was beginning to fall in love with him, not Angelus but Angel, in The Trial.


>I think she is special just in the fact that she was
>resurrected as a human then turned back into a
>vampire. There are not that many beings in the
>Buffy/Angelverse who can claim to that status. Maybe
>that's key to her being able to get pregnant?

I think that's wonderful. Darla's special anyway you look at her and yeah, that's one theory of many. Darla and Angel's physical makeup may be responsible for the baby.


>I'll also say this that even though Darla was treated
>as all black hat in Reprise, she was definitely not
>given the black-hat treatment in Epiphany.

Exactly. There's a huge contrast between her behavior in Reprise in comparison to her behavior in Epiphany. What struck me was how upset she was. When she said "I trusted you! I believed . . .," it just confirmed that she'd been carrying what Angel did for her in The Trial with her all that time.

The camera
>and the script spent an inordinate amount of time on
>Darla's intense pain after Angel's rejection of her.
>Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I don't
>think Darla's response to Angel will be wanting
>revenge. I spent a fair amount of time grumbling and
>cursing Angel in Epiphany because he did to Darla what
>all those men might have done to her back when she was
>a prostitute. Angel's behavior might have reinforced
>Darla's bitter opinion of men, that they all want to
>use her as a sex object and nothing more.

You just stated why I couldn't stand Angel after Epiphany. His treatment of her was every bit as callous and degrading, esp. in light of the fact that he knew of her previous profession back in the day unlike before. I couldn't believe he could be so harsh.

I still can't get that look of her sitting on the couch in complete silence. She looked depressed and my heart bled for her.

>In Hearthrob, the sleazy guy who offers Darla a drink
>even when she says no gets bitten, not because she was
>hungry, but because he *hit on* her and was obviusly
>out to use her for sex if she had been human.


Exactly. I noticed that too so you aren't seeing things. =) She gave him a few chances to live but once he dropped the bomb, how could she resist? He eventually represented everything she hated about men.

>I've always thought of Darla as a woman who has pride
>in herself. When she's been humilated, she hates going
>back to the person who has humilated her. More than
>any other, aside from Wolfram and Hart, Angel
>humiliated her in the most painful way and I wouldn't
>have been surprised if she would have stayed away from
>LA if she hadn't become pregnant.

Me neither. I hope Darla gets some major digs at Angel when she sees him. You know, just to tell him off and make him realize some things. I'm expecting it on some level but I'm not sure.

=)

Blue

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