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Date Posted: 21:54 14/09/24 Sat
Author: Two-Bob Man
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 110.144.28.91
Subject: Ginnivan ahead on most stats
In reply to: mjd 's message, "Clearly ahead? Schultz one goal less from fewer games…" on 18:17 14/09/24 Sat

I wanted to omit goals as a pure measure of effectiveness because, whereas Schultz was used almost entirely as a forward for the Pies, Ginnivan was also moved into Hawthorn's midfield rotation a few times this season, offering a point of difference from how he had been used at the Pies.

In terms of ball winning, Ginnivan averaged more disposals per game (16.5 to 12.2) than Schultz including an average of 10.2 kicks to 6.8 kicks.

We are not talking big numbers here, but in percentage terms, Ginnivan was able to find the ball more - even notwithstanding the previous observation that Ginnivan was utilised as a mid "at times".

Ginnivan was responsible fro delivering the ball inside 50, on average, 3.2 times per game as opposed to Schultz's 2 times per game.

And Ginnivan was able to average 5.4 contested possessions to Schultz's 4.0, as well as 5.8 score involvements to 4.8.

Schultz has him covered for tackles (3.8 per game to 2.7)

The bottom line, and this is more an observational statistic as opposed to a numerical one, is that Ginnivan also seems to have made a more significant contritubtion to the Hawthorn team than Schultz did for the Pies.

But we are only one season into the analysis, so I'm not that concerned.

Inside the club, the club haas been happy with the contributions Schultz has made and the "unnoticed " things that us outsiders may not see....so i'm prepared to say that each player brought something new to their teams.

TBM

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Shultz will stand up in finals, Ginnivan is a pretender -- Prophet, 13:18 16/09/24 Mon
The issue was cost. -- Josh, 13:39 16/09/24 Mon
- If you count TJ as nothing then that's what happened, as it's stands TJ looks very promising so -- Pyeman WPBD, 13:56 16/09/24 Mon
  - We could have taken TJ at 35 if we hadn't given it to Freo. -- Josh, 14:13 16/09/24 Mon
    - Drafted TJ with a pick we got from Hawthorn and the player at 33 might be better than pick 30 -- Pyeman WPBD, 14:33 16/09/24 Mon
    - Bingo. Very selective observation to suggest that it was Ginnivan for TJ (NT) -- Rocket surgeon, 19:38 16/09/24 Mon
      - So you're saying we took TJ with the pick we didn't get from Hawthorn? -- Pyeman WPBD, 19:44 16/09/24 Mon
        You're correct. You're being very simplistic. -- Rocket surgeon, 20:12 16/09/24 Mon
        I suggest you familiarise yourself with the trade, Schultz had nothing to do with it -- Pyeman WPBD, 09:16 17/09/24 Tue
        If we hadn't traded for Shultz and kept Ginni we would have had the pick anyway. -- Josh, 11:55 17/09/24 Tue
  - Except that we may have picked up TJ with the second round pick that -- Rocket surgeon, 19:37 16/09/24 Mon

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