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Author: clayton Author Host/IP: 216.203.116.104 |
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Date Posted: 09:34:30 05/18/06 Thu >>>>>you still haven't shown one gr.ch.dog of ncroads >>with >>>>>50 percent of blood that was in sdj. >>>>>last i looked there is only one r.o.m dog in sdk >for >>>>>ironline as well and ch.hagler was breed by >ironline >>>>>and ch.gambler wasn't match by them either he was >>>>>bought back after his hunting and was said to be >>>>>nothing compared to hagler-per hagler's owners in >>fl. >>>> >>>>First off Gr.Ch. Romeo isn't quite 50% but the top >of >>>>Yances is from my blood and the bottom is from >>Palmers >>>>bloodline of Red Devil which I also owned as in >>>>Nitro's pedigree which is Ch. Hagler's pedigree. >>>> >>>>Since you seem to know so much about me Clayton, let >>>>me advise you to learn more about what you speak of >>>>when it pertains to me and what I do or don't do. >>>> >>>>As for Ch. Hagler (BTW with out my Equipment and >Keep >>>>would never had made through his first hunt besides >>>>all the rest), you know nothing of what you speak of >>>>because Hagler owners are not in Fl. first off and >in >>>>the second place, any associates in Fl. of Hagler >>>>never seen Ch. Gambler to judge him to be compared >to >>>>anything. >>>>Which I can speak of first hand of both dogs. >>>>And since I crank his starter I do know and can >>>>compare, >>>>Ch. Hagler had no where near what Ch. Gambler had. >>>>Ch. Hagler wasn't in the same league. >>>>As a stud, Ch. Hagler hasn't produce no winners, >(and >>>>most likely won't now that he is dead) or recognized >>>>dogs as Ch. Gambler has. >>>>If you would like more knowledge, quit listening to >>BS >>>>and come talk to the person who knows. >>> >>> >>>just look at the story hear 5xw then 8xw then back to >>>5xw then a ROM were is this info to be found other >>>than in the hearts and minds of the beholder >>>GR CH NORROD'S IRON TAFFY ROM >>> >>>User Description Date >>>Harlem Brown changed dam id 12291 to dam id 1155 >June >>>13th, 2002 01:12 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY >>>Changed before-name title. Old title was >>>Changed after-name title. Old title was >>>Changed note. It was: >>> >>> November 21st, 2003 21:45 >>>KombatZone Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY (5XW) >>>Changed note. It was: >>> >>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat >>> December 4th, 2003 01:41 >>>SHADYBOY7 Uploaded picture. January 13th, 2004 01:36 >>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture March 7th, 2004 01:43 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY (8XW) >>>Changed note. It was: >>> >>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat 3 wins >>were >>>OTC >>> March 7th, 2004 01:43 >>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. March 7th, 2004 01:45 >>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture March 13th, 2004 18:50 >>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. October 6th, 2004 23:57 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed after-name title. Old title was >>ROM >>>Changed color. Old color was >>> January 23rd, 2005 13:07 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed after-name title. Old title was >>>(4XW)ROM >>> January 23rd, 2005 13:07 >>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture April 5th, 2005 00:07 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY >>>Changed after-name title. Old title was (5XW)ROM >>> April 5th, 2005 00:56 >>>oac Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S IRON >>>TAFFY (5XW)(ROM) >>>Changed after-name title. Old title was >>> April 15th, 2005 15:57 >>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. May 7th, 2005 23:33 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed breeder. Old breeder was >>> May 7th, 2005 23:33 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY (5XW) >>>Changed after-name title. Old title was ROM >>>Changed note. It was: >>> >>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat >>> May 15th, 2005 16:40 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed before-name title. Old title was >GR >>>CH >>> May 15th, 2005 16:40 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY >>> May 15th, 2005 16:41 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed owner. Old owner was NORROD >>> May 15th, 2005 16:41 >>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture May 15th, 2005 16:42 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY >>> May 17th, 2005 20:18 >>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S >>>IRON TAFFY >>>Changed before-name title. Old title was >>> May 22nd, 2005 20:12 >>>bigmig111 Uploaded picture. July 8th, 2005 22:54 >>>Danger Changed after-name title. Old title was >> >> >>If you say so, but do you notice none of it was >>anything by me because I believe this information came >>off the rat service Pedigree-Online. I never subscribe >>too. >> >><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://ironlinekennels.com/NorrodBillboard/viewtopic.p">http://ironlinekennels.com/NorrodBillboard/viewtopic.p</a> >h >>p?t=118 > > >LOL I see you are still having a hard time >comprehending what you read. Reread my first post and >tell me where I talked about anything but Danger? No >other OFRN breeders or lines were mentioned. Also >reread my post after you made the comment Danger is >just a Geronimo dog. Once again I mention no other >OFRN breeders and lines. Reread the questions I asked. >Also notice how many Geronimo dogs has done what >Danger has. You mean to tell me with all the people >who visit this board and breed OFRN dogs only ONE >other dog could answer the same questions and it took >three days of thinking to come up with that...LOL. > >If you believe all OFRN lines are equal you are >foolong yourself. If you think all OFRN breeders are >the same you are a FOOL! Some lines are superior to >others because of the quality of dog and the most >important part...THE BREEDER! > >If you have decent OFRN dogs with Red Devil in the >peds just remember it's because of not in spite of the >breeder. > >Instead of throwing up when you see the name Norrod in >your peds you should be proud, figure out why he bred >the dogs the way he did and walk the walk. > > >Now Clayton all you do is ask a ton of questions. >Every time a question gets answered you come up with >another. I have a question for you why don't you show >a ped of one of your winning OFRN dogs? I just reduced >the odds of you doing that by using the words "winning >OFRN."...LOL! > >Now you asked about champions and ROM dogs. I will >first show you why Ch.Spike and Gr.Ch.Taffy are ROM >dogs. > >Males must have 16 points to reach ROM status. >Females must have 12 points to reach ROM status. > >Males must have 15 points to be a POR. >Females must have 11 points to be POR. > >A gr.ch. = 6 points. >A champion = 4 points. >A win = 1 point. >A loss = 0 points. > >Here is an incomplete list of gr.chs, chs. and winners. > >Gr.Ch.Taffy ROM >Gr.Ch.KoKo >Ch.Spike ROM >Ch.Bobcat >Ch.Bear >Ali 2xw >Tony 2xw >Susie Q 2xw >Reckless Red 2xw >Braddock 1xw >Nikki 1xw >and more... > >That was the list of the Red Devil not including >Hemphill, Boudreaux, Turtlebuster or Redboy champions >and winners. Like I said in an earlier post about your >lack of accomplishments because if you had half a >brain and walked the walk you would appreciate what >has been done by I.M. > >Clayton anymore questions? > > >I saved you for last FigTree John. the two things that >got my attention in your last post was you mentioning >me being a new guy and I need to do my research. well >this one is for you. > >Let's start with my lack of research. > >I have talked to on the phone or in person the >following people. Mullins, Mims, Sunderman, Aldridge, >and Norrod concerning Hemphill dogs only. Who have you >talked to that has owned, bred or watch Hemphill dogs >perform? > >I just last week talked to one of the above mentioned >people who knew Hemphill, Plemmons, O'Neal and Sanders >well. As a matter of fact I have started recording our >conversations to make sure history is told in his >words. Who have you talked to that knew the breeders >of Lightner dogs? > >I did my research when I decided to get OFRN dogs. I >knew some of the breeders and went to their yards. I >knew who was doing what and who wasn't. It was a no >brainer to go with the Hemphill/Norrod dogs >considering he was the only performance breeder. What >performance breeder did you get your dogs from? > >Now let's talk about me being a new guy. > >I have rolled and assisted in the breedings of the >dogs in your main studs ped. Grizzly was a 15 minute >cur and Annabella never had a tooth in her. Grizzly's >brother Gator wouldn't engage at all but he sure ran >fast...LOL! Grizzly and Annabella are 50% of the main >stud used in your dogs...Copperhead. I'll quote Pritts >for you. " I don't care about doing anything with >Annabella because no one did anything with her before >I got her. Some guys in California are paying big >money for pups." How new am I? I didn't see you at >Pritts' yard John in the early 90's. > >I have stood 15 feet away several times from the >breeder and the person who showed the gr.ch. in your >Carver/OFRN dogs. Once I cut his feed bill and his >pockets were a little lighter afterwards...LOL! I >think his dog shows up in the fourth or fifth >generation of your peds. How new am I? Again John you >were no where to be found. > >You claim you have been in the dogs since 1979 but it >was last year(2005) I TOLD YOU WHAT THE ADBA GAZETTE >WAS! Really now how NEW am I? > >As far as the difference in what you feed and what I >feed is a HUGE difference. You made a reference about >Tiger well he is 3/8ths the genetic make up of >winners. Tiger's daughter wrecked the OFBA's battle >cross Panama Smoke 1xw to the point Ironhead(G.V.) >picked her up to save her. I guess that's why they ran >for the border to get a win right John? By the way >Tiger's daughter is 1/4th the genetic make up of >winners. Are you still questioning the quality of the >dogs I feed? > >Oh and how many winners has Copperhead produced? How >about the other dogs you own like Moe, Fred, Franco >and Bess? Why when Bess was bred she didn't have a >scratch on her like her great grand momma Annabella? >Speaking of Bess you might want to call the ADBA >because the people you sent pups to are missing >something...LOL! I guess I'm stiil the new guy that >needs to do his research? > >For the record Danger might be more than 96% Hemphill >because some of the peds are incomplete on some of the >Skagg dogs. John I don't need to take the time to >research and call the UKC and track it down. When I do >I will make sure to mail you a copy of Wilder's >Satan's ped with the D- on it....LOL! I know your >exact address don't worry...LOL! > >I also haven't forgot what was posted on peds online. >For you being a "brutha" I'm highly dissappointed you >don't know "the code of the street." Like I said I >know your exact address and I will help you REMENBER! A male dog becomes eligible to be placed on the R.O.M. list if he has sired four or more champions. The R.O.M. dog will be awarded one point for every champion he has sired and will receive one additional point if any of the offspring should go on to become a Grand Champion. The rules are the same for bitches to get on the Register of Merit list, except,a bitch need only be the dam of three (3) Champions to gain a spot on the list. 19 points Crenshaws CH JEEP 14 points Tant's GR CH YELLOW 13 points Garner's FRISCO 11 points STP GRCH BUCK 9 points Long's WEIRDO 8 points WCC Deacon Southern Knls GRCH MAYDAY White's TAB 7 points Giroux BOOGER Finley's CH BO Lee's CH RENO Patrick's TOMBSTONE 6 points Allen's BUTCH Untouchable's CH Butkus Mountain Man's CH Homer Patricks HOMER W&P's LITTLE BOOTS LG's CH LITTLE MAN Wildside Knls LUCIFER Ling Limey's NELIS Crenshaws CH OTIS Snakeman's GRCH PEDRO Busenbarks CH RATLER Rebel Knls CH SUNDANCE Rolling Hill Knls CH TAZ O. Stevens GRCH VIRGIL Chavis CH YELLOW JOHN 5 points R. Hall's GRCH ANDY CAPP Dave's BLACK POISON Boyle's CH BOLTACTION Rebel Knls CH BUBBA Loposay's BUSTER Kamakazee Knls HUNTER RED DreamTeam CH JESSE JAMES RC/Soso Boys CH FRITZ Hammond's RUFUS Mason's SMILEY Otter's CH TONKA BEAR Bristol's CH THOR O. Steven's TROLL Rebels Knls CH TURTLE Adam's GRCH ZEBO 4 points Stinson/Glover GRCH ART Smith & Walton GRCH Badger Coy's GRCH BANJO INDIAN BOLIO Giroux GRCH CARLO Holland GRCH CHEROK CHIEF Garner's CHINAMAN Giroux CH GUNNER Goner's GARBALDI O.Steven's CH HOMER Phils Ch LITTLE GEORGE Mayfields NIGGER Cherokee Knls OILER JR Larson's RED ED Hardcore Knls REDMAN Smith & Williams REUBEN Mayfields SNAKE Woods SNOOTY Carolina Knls CH TERMITE Mister K'S TEX 3 points Smith/Walton CH BAD BILLY Patricks BULLYBOY BOD Harris ELI III Thibodeaux EMILE R. Sorrells GATORSON Randy's GONNER Norrod's IRON SPIKE McCollums JESSIE JR Redb's REDDOG B. Sorrells RED JERRY Hargrove's SPANKY Matlock's TRUCK FEMALES 7 points JC Shaw CH Honeybunch 5 points StoneCity AWESOME BABY Road Warriors BOOGER Boyle's LIMITED EDITION B Line LITTLE BITS LG's MISS KIM 4 points Byrd's ANGIE B WCC ASSASSINATOR Lewis CH CATFISH Boyles DIRTY MARY Hollingsworth DOLLY Wright's JILL Boyles LADY UNDERTAKER DreamTeam CH LITTLE BIT McCollums LYDA Undertaker Knls MS LEAKY O.Steven's RAMONA King Limey's TUG 3 points TKO Combine's AUTUMS Can Am Boys CH BECKY HardCore Knls BREAKER Mister K's BUP Losco's COLLEEN Man's CRAZY TIPPI Untouchable's DAISY MAE BulldogHeaven's GERALDINE Lee's HANNAH Duprel's JILL Yankee Boys LUCI Ozarks Jim's LUCY Havannah Boys MAGGIE Fitch's MEAN JOLENE Hackman's MISS CHAMP Hardcore Knls PEPSI I.Jerry's MS POOLHALL RED Patrick's RED BABY Hollingsworth RED LADY Barbwire Knls ROXY Giroux RED PINKY Rolling Hills SAPELO Tomsic's SPIDER Boyles TEA CUP did i miss something were are they all at on this list?i see one norrod dog and one yankee boy A Grand Champion must be the winner in five (5) shows and have never suffered a loss. There are however, several instances, in which the dogs can be awarded a GRCH without winning at every show in which he is entered: A dog will not be penalized in the case of a draw: If a handler fouls out and was later determined that the handler really didn't. If it can be proven that the dog was a victim of some kind of unfairness. ACE, Super Gnats ABBY, Russ ACES JACKIE, IBM & Blanco AJAX, Big Thickett Knl ANGUS, Stepps ANDY CAPP, R Hall ART, Stinson & Glover ART, Yankee Boys B.B. RED, Coy BADGER, Bloodliners BADGER, Smith & Walton BANJO, Coy BEAR, Corn Pone Knls BEAR TRAP, Old House Knls BELLA, Eastend Knls BIG FOOT, High Energy Knls BISON, Jay & Hardliners BINGO, Sunday's BLACK JACK, JC Shaw BLACK JACK, Garcia BO, M.A.D BOCEFUS, Gonazalez BOOGER, Jones & Holt's BOOKER, Frank & Al's BOOMERANG, B.Davis BRONSON, Rasta Man BUCK, STP BUDDY, ScratchLiners BUDDY, Stubblefield BULL, Jose BUSTER, Scratch & Stitch BUSTER BROWN, Strickly Busns CARLO, Giroux CANDY, Hands CANDY, S.T.P. CANNIBAL CANDY, Millbuster's CHEROKEE CHIEF, Holland CHIEF, Majic Line Pits CHUCO LOKO, Sal's COOL BREEZE, R.E.P. COUNTRY, Pitts CRAZY TURFMAN, Mead DAISY MAE, Boston Blackie DAISY MAE, Trail Drivers DOUBLE TROUBLE, Produce's DUKE, Dock's Pound DUKE, Legion of Doom DUTCHES, Ramrod's GABE, M.A.D GRIP, High' Tech HANK, Burton HELLBEND, Grits HELLCAT, MMM HOPE, L.Lewis HURRICANE HUGO, Greenhorn's IBM, Malik IRON MAN, Pittman JACK, Jackie S. JAKE, Cruse JEREMIAH, Plummer Ron JINX, Cat & Co. JOKER, House's JOEY, RBB JOHN BOY, S.T.P JUBBLE, Wright KING ARTHUR, Captain America KRUEGER, Fred B & JC LEFTY, Bunce LIONHEAD, Shankbone LITTLE JACK, Fergy's LITTLE ROY, Haney LIZZE, American Made Knls LOCO, SNK Knls LUCKY STRIKE, Steve & Co. LUKANE, S.T.P. LUPITA, Mr C & Super Knls MAMMY, Yankee Boys MAYDAY, Southern Knls MIDNIGHT, Jessie R. MISS RAGE, J.Johnson MONGOOSE, Santa MS PANTHER, Diamond Dan MYRA, Hunter's Pound NAILOR, P & P Knls NATE, Trodbuster NIKKI, Ricky B. 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