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Subject: Re: What a shame


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clayton
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Date Posted: 09:34:30 05/18/06 Thu

>>>>>you still haven't shown one gr.ch.dog of ncroads
>>with
>>>>>50 percent of blood that was in sdj.
>>>>>last i looked there is only one r.o.m dog in sdk
>for
>>>>>ironline as well and ch.hagler was breed by
>ironline
>>>>>and ch.gambler wasn't match by them either he was
>>>>>bought back after his hunting and was said to be
>>>>>nothing compared to hagler-per hagler's owners in
>>fl.
>>>>
>>>>First off Gr.Ch. Romeo isn't quite 50% but the top
>of
>>>>Yances is from my blood and the bottom is from
>>Palmers
>>>>bloodline of Red Devil which I also owned as in
>>>>Nitro's pedigree which is Ch. Hagler's pedigree.
>>>>
>>>>Since you seem to know so much about me Clayton, let
>>>>me advise you to learn more about what you speak of
>>>>when it pertains to me and what I do or don't do.
>>>>
>>>>As for Ch. Hagler (BTW with out my Equipment and
>Keep
>>>>would never had made through his first hunt besides
>>>>all the rest), you know nothing of what you speak of
>>>>because Hagler owners are not in Fl. first off and
>in
>>>>the second place, any associates in Fl. of Hagler
>>>>never seen Ch. Gambler to judge him to be compared
>to
>>>>anything.
>>>>Which I can speak of first hand of both dogs.
>>>>And since I crank his starter I do know and can
>>>>compare,
>>>>Ch. Hagler had no where near what Ch. Gambler had.
>>>>Ch. Hagler wasn't in the same league.
>>>>As a stud, Ch. Hagler hasn't produce no winners,
>(and
>>>>most likely won't now that he is dead) or recognized
>>>>dogs as Ch. Gambler has.
>>>>If you would like more knowledge, quit listening to
>>BS
>>>>and come talk to the person who knows.
>>>
>>>
>>>just look at the story hear 5xw then 8xw then back to
>>>5xw then a ROM were is this info to be found other
>>>than in the hearts and minds of the beholder
>>>GR CH NORROD'S IRON TAFFY ROM
>>>
>>>User Description Date
>>>Harlem Brown changed dam id 12291 to dam id 1155
>June
>>>13th, 2002 01:12
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY
>>>Changed before-name title. Old title was
>>>Changed after-name title. Old title was
>>>Changed note. It was:
>>>
>>> November 21st, 2003 21:45
>>>KombatZone Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY (5XW)
>>>Changed note. It was:
>>>
>>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat
>>> December 4th, 2003 01:41
>>>SHADYBOY7 Uploaded picture. January 13th, 2004 01:36
>>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture March 7th, 2004 01:43
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY (8XW)
>>>Changed note. It was:
>>>
>>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat 3 wins
>>were
>>>OTC
>>> March 7th, 2004 01:43
>>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. March 7th, 2004 01:45
>>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture March 13th, 2004 18:50
>>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. October 6th, 2004 23:57
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed after-name title. Old title was
>>ROM
>>>Changed color. Old color was
>>> January 23rd, 2005 13:07
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed after-name title. Old title was
>>>(4XW)ROM
>>> January 23rd, 2005 13:07
>>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture April 5th, 2005 00:07
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY
>>>Changed after-name title. Old title was (5XW)ROM
>>> April 5th, 2005 00:56
>>>oac Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S IRON
>>>TAFFY (5XW)(ROM)
>>>Changed after-name title. Old title was
>>> April 15th, 2005 15:57
>>>REDBEARD55 Uploaded picture. May 7th, 2005 23:33
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed breeder. Old breeder was
>>> May 7th, 2005 23:33
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY (5XW)
>>>Changed after-name title. Old title was ROM
>>>Changed note. It was:
>>>
>>>Dam of March Koko,Ch IronBear,Ch IronBobcat
>>> May 15th, 2005 16:40
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed before-name title. Old title was
>GR
>>>CH
>>> May 15th, 2005 16:40
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY
>>> May 15th, 2005 16:41
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed owner. Old owner was NORROD
>>> May 15th, 2005 16:41
>>>REDBEARD55 Deleted picture May 15th, 2005 16:42
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY
>>> May 17th, 2005 20:18
>>>REDBEARD55 Changed registered_name. It was NORROD'S
>>>IRON TAFFY
>>>Changed before-name title. Old title was
>>> May 22nd, 2005 20:12
>>>bigmig111 Uploaded picture. July 8th, 2005 22:54
>>>Danger Changed after-name title. Old title was
>>
>>
>>If you say so, but do you notice none of it was
>>anything by me because I believe this information came
>>off the rat service Pedigree-Online. I never subscribe
>>too.
>>
>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://ironlinekennels.com/NorrodBillboard/viewtopic.p">http://ironlinekennels.com/NorrodBillboard/viewtopic.p</a>
>h
>>p?t=118
>
>
>LOL I see you are still having a hard time
>comprehending what you read. Reread my first post and
>tell me where I talked about anything but Danger? No
>other OFRN breeders or lines were mentioned. Also
>reread my post after you made the comment Danger is
>just a Geronimo dog. Once again I mention no other
>OFRN breeders and lines. Reread the questions I asked.
>Also notice how many Geronimo dogs has done what
>Danger has. You mean to tell me with all the people
>who visit this board and breed OFRN dogs only ONE
>other dog could answer the same questions and it took
>three days of thinking to come up with that...LOL.
>
>If you believe all OFRN lines are equal you are
>foolong yourself. If you think all OFRN breeders are
>the same you are a FOOL! Some lines are superior to
>others because of the quality of dog and the most
>important part...THE BREEDER!
>
>If you have decent OFRN dogs with Red Devil in the
>peds just remember it's because of not in spite of the
>breeder.
>
>Instead of throwing up when you see the name Norrod in
>your peds you should be proud, figure out why he bred
>the dogs the way he did and walk the walk.
>
>
>Now Clayton all you do is ask a ton of questions.
>Every time a question gets answered you come up with
>another. I have a question for you why don't you show
>a ped of one of your winning OFRN dogs? I just reduced
>the odds of you doing that by using the words "winning
>OFRN."...LOL!
>
>Now you asked about champions and ROM dogs. I will
>first show you why Ch.Spike and Gr.Ch.Taffy are ROM
>dogs.
>
>Males must have 16 points to reach ROM status.
>Females must have 12 points to reach ROM status.
>
>Males must have 15 points to be a POR.
>Females must have 11 points to be POR.
>
>A gr.ch. = 6 points.
>A champion = 4 points.
>A win = 1 point.
>A loss = 0 points.
>
>Here is an incomplete list of gr.chs, chs. and winners.
>
>Gr.Ch.Taffy ROM
>Gr.Ch.KoKo
>Ch.Spike ROM
>Ch.Bobcat
>Ch.Bear
>Ali 2xw
>Tony 2xw
>Susie Q 2xw
>Reckless Red 2xw
>Braddock 1xw
>Nikki 1xw
>and more...
>
>That was the list of the Red Devil not including
>Hemphill, Boudreaux, Turtlebuster or Redboy champions
>and winners. Like I said in an earlier post about your
>lack of accomplishments because if you had half a
>brain and walked the walk you would appreciate what
>has been done by I.M.
>
>Clayton anymore questions?
>
>
>I saved you for last FigTree John. the two things that
>got my attention in your last post was you mentioning
>me being a new guy and I need to do my research. well
>this one is for you.
>
>Let's start with my lack of research.
>
>I have talked to on the phone or in person the
>following people. Mullins, Mims, Sunderman, Aldridge,
>and Norrod concerning Hemphill dogs only. Who have you
>talked to that has owned, bred or watch Hemphill dogs
>perform?
>
>I just last week talked to one of the above mentioned
>people who knew Hemphill, Plemmons, O'Neal and Sanders
>well. As a matter of fact I have started recording our
>conversations to make sure history is told in his
>words. Who have you talked to that knew the breeders
>of Lightner dogs?
>
>I did my research when I decided to get OFRN dogs. I
>knew some of the breeders and went to their yards. I
>knew who was doing what and who wasn't. It was a no
>brainer to go with the Hemphill/Norrod dogs
>considering he was the only performance breeder. What
>performance breeder did you get your dogs from?
>
>Now let's talk about me being a new guy.
>
>I have rolled and assisted in the breedings of the
>dogs in your main studs ped. Grizzly was a 15 minute
>cur and Annabella never had a tooth in her. Grizzly's
>brother Gator wouldn't engage at all but he sure ran
>fast...LOL! Grizzly and Annabella are 50% of the main
>stud used in your dogs...Copperhead. I'll quote Pritts
>for you. " I don't care about doing anything with
>Annabella because no one did anything with her before
>I got her. Some guys in California are paying big
>money for pups." How new am I? I didn't see you at
>Pritts' yard John in the early 90's.
>
>I have stood 15 feet away several times from the
>breeder and the person who showed the gr.ch. in your
>Carver/OFRN dogs. Once I cut his feed bill and his
>pockets were a little lighter afterwards...LOL! I
>think his dog shows up in the fourth or fifth
>generation of your peds. How new am I? Again John you
>were no where to be found.
>
>You claim you have been in the dogs since 1979 but it
>was last year(2005) I TOLD YOU WHAT THE ADBA GAZETTE
>WAS! Really now how NEW am I?
>
>As far as the difference in what you feed and what I
>feed is a HUGE difference. You made a reference about
>Tiger well he is 3/8ths the genetic make up of
>winners. Tiger's daughter wrecked the OFBA's battle
>cross Panama Smoke 1xw to the point Ironhead(G.V.)
>picked her up to save her. I guess that's why they ran
>for the border to get a win right John? By the way
>Tiger's daughter is 1/4th the genetic make up of
>winners. Are you still questioning the quality of the
>dogs I feed?
>
>Oh and how many winners has Copperhead produced? How
>about the other dogs you own like Moe, Fred, Franco
>and Bess? Why when Bess was bred she didn't have a
>scratch on her like her great grand momma Annabella?
>Speaking of Bess you might want to call the ADBA
>because the people you sent pups to are missing
>something...LOL! I guess I'm stiil the new guy that
>needs to do his research?
>
>For the record Danger might be more than 96% Hemphill
>because some of the peds are incomplete on some of the
>Skagg dogs. John I don't need to take the time to
>research and call the UKC and track it down. When I do
>I will make sure to mail you a copy of Wilder's
>Satan's ped with the D- on it....LOL! I know your
>exact address don't worry...LOL!
>
>I also haven't forgot what was posted on peds online.
>For you being a "brutha" I'm highly dissappointed you
>don't know "the code of the street." Like I said I
>know your exact address and I will help you REMENBER!
A male dog becomes eligible to be placed on the R.O.M. list if he has sired four or more champions. The R.O.M. dog will be awarded one point for every champion he has sired and will receive one additional point if any of the offspring should go on to become a Grand Champion.
The rules are the same for bitches to get on the Register of Merit list, except,a bitch need only be the dam of three (3) Champions to gain a spot on the list.



19 points
Crenshaws CH JEEP
14 points
Tant's GR CH YELLOW

13 points
Garner's FRISCO

11 points
STP GRCH BUCK

9 points
Long's WEIRDO

8 points
WCC Deacon
Southern Knls GRCH MAYDAY
White's TAB

7 points
Giroux BOOGER
Finley's CH BO
Lee's CH RENO
Patrick's TOMBSTONE

6 points
Allen's BUTCH
Untouchable's CH Butkus
Mountain Man's CH Homer
Patricks HOMER
W&P's LITTLE BOOTS
LG's CH LITTLE MAN
Wildside Knls LUCIFER
Ling Limey's NELIS
Crenshaws CH OTIS
Snakeman's GRCH PEDRO
Busenbarks CH RATLER
Rebel Knls CH SUNDANCE
Rolling Hill Knls CH TAZ
O. Stevens GRCH VIRGIL
Chavis CH YELLOW JOHN

5 points
R. Hall's GRCH ANDY CAPP
Dave's BLACK POISON
Boyle's CH BOLTACTION
Rebel Knls CH BUBBA
Loposay's BUSTER
Kamakazee Knls HUNTER RED
DreamTeam CH JESSE JAMES
RC/Soso Boys CH FRITZ
Hammond's RUFUS
Mason's SMILEY
Otter's CH TONKA BEAR
Bristol's CH THOR
O. Steven's TROLL
Rebels Knls CH TURTLE
Adam's GRCH ZEBO

4 points
Stinson/Glover GRCH ART
Smith & Walton GRCH Badger
Coy's GRCH BANJO
INDIAN BOLIO
Giroux GRCH CARLO
Holland GRCH CHEROK CHIEF
Garner's CHINAMAN
Giroux CH GUNNER
Goner's GARBALDI
O.Steven's CH HOMER
Phils Ch LITTLE GEORGE
Mayfields NIGGER
Cherokee Knls OILER JR
Larson's RED ED
Hardcore Knls REDMAN
Smith & Williams REUBEN
Mayfields SNAKE
Woods SNOOTY
Carolina Knls CH TERMITE
Mister K'S TEX

3 points
Smith/Walton CH BAD BILLY
Patricks BULLYBOY BOD
Harris ELI III
Thibodeaux EMILE
R. Sorrells GATORSON
Randy's GONNER
Norrod's IRON SPIKE
McCollums JESSIE JR
Redb's REDDOG
B. Sorrells RED JERRY
Hargrove's SPANKY
Matlock's TRUCK

FEMALES
7 points
JC Shaw CH Honeybunch
5 points
StoneCity AWESOME BABY
Road Warriors BOOGER
Boyle's LIMITED EDITION
B Line LITTLE BITS
LG's MISS KIM

4 points
Byrd's ANGIE B
WCC ASSASSINATOR
Lewis CH CATFISH
Boyles DIRTY MARY
Hollingsworth DOLLY
Wright's JILL
Boyles LADY UNDERTAKER
DreamTeam CH LITTLE BIT
McCollums LYDA
Undertaker Knls MS LEAKY
O.Steven's RAMONA
King Limey's TUG

3 points
TKO Combine's AUTUMS
Can Am Boys CH BECKY
HardCore Knls BREAKER
Mister K's BUP
Losco's COLLEEN
Man's CRAZY TIPPI
Untouchable's DAISY MAE
BulldogHeaven's GERALDINE
Lee's HANNAH
Duprel's JILL
Yankee Boys LUCI
Ozarks Jim's LUCY
Havannah Boys MAGGIE
Fitch's MEAN JOLENE
Hackman's MISS CHAMP
Hardcore Knls PEPSI
I.Jerry's MS POOLHALL RED
Patrick's RED BABY
Hollingsworth RED LADY
Barbwire Knls ROXY
Giroux RED PINKY
Rolling Hills SAPELO
Tomsic's SPIDER
Boyles TEA CUP

did i miss something were are they all at on this list?i see one norrod dog and one yankee boy

A Grand Champion must be the winner in five (5) shows and have never suffered a loss. There are however, several instances, in which the dogs can be awarded a GRCH without winning at every show in which he is entered:
A dog will not be penalized in the case of a draw:
If a handler fouls out and was later determined that the handler really didn't.
If it can be proven that the dog was a victim of some kind of unfairness.




ACE, Super Gnats
ABBY, Russ
ACES JACKIE, IBM & Blanco
AJAX, Big Thickett Knl
ANGUS, Stepps
ANDY CAPP, R Hall
ART, Stinson & Glover
ART, Yankee Boys

B.B. RED, Coy
BADGER, Bloodliners
BADGER, Smith & Walton
BANJO, Coy
BEAR, Corn Pone Knls
BEAR TRAP, Old House Knls
BELLA, Eastend Knls
BIG FOOT, High Energy Knls
BISON, Jay & Hardliners
BINGO, Sunday's
BLACK JACK, JC Shaw
BLACK JACK, Garcia BO, M.A.D
BOCEFUS, Gonazalez
BOOGER, Jones & Holt's
BOOKER, Frank & Al's
BOOMERANG, B.Davis
BRONSON, Rasta Man
BUCK, STP
BUDDY, ScratchLiners
BUDDY, Stubblefield
BULL, Jose
BUSTER, Scratch & Stitch
BUSTER BROWN, Strickly Busns


CARLO, Giroux
CANDY, Hands
CANDY, S.T.P.
CANNIBAL CANDY, Millbuster's
CHEROKEE CHIEF, Holland CHIEF, Majic Line Pits
CHUCO LOKO, Sal's
COOL BREEZE, R.E.P.
COUNTRY, Pitts
CRAZY TURFMAN, Mead

DAISY MAE, Boston Blackie
DAISY MAE, Trail Drivers
DOUBLE TROUBLE, Produce's DUKE, Dock's Pound
DUKE, Legion of Doom
DUTCHES, Ramrod's

GABE, M.A.D GRIP, High' Tech

HANK, Burton
HELLBEND, Grits
HELLCAT, MMM HOPE, L.Lewis
HURRICANE HUGO, Greenhorn's

IBM, Malik IRON MAN, Pittman

JACK, Jackie S.
JAKE, Cruse
JEREMIAH, Plummer Ron
JINX, Cat & Co. JOKER, House's
JOEY, RBB
JOHN BOY, S.T.P
JUBBLE, Wright

KING ARTHUR, Captain America KRUEGER, Fred B & JC

LEFTY, Bunce
LIONHEAD, Shankbone
LITTLE JACK, Fergy's
LITTLE ROY, Haney
LIZZE, American Made Knls LOCO, SNK Knls
LUCKY STRIKE, Steve & Co.
LUKANE, S.T.P.
LUPITA, Mr C & Super Knls

MAMMY, Yankee Boys
MAYDAY, Southern Knls
MIDNIGHT, Jessie R.
MISS RAGE, J.Johnson MONGOOSE, Santa
MS PANTHER, Diamond Dan
MYRA, Hunter's Pound

NAILOR, P & P Knls
NATE, Trodbuster NIKKI, Ricky B. Pound

ONIX, Costa & Miranda
OUTRAGE, True Colors OZO AZUL, Gonzalez

P.W., True Blood & Pine Men Pound
PEDRO, Snakeman PEPPER, San Peur Knls

QUEEN OF HEARTS, Abraham

RAMBO, The Bailey's
RAMBO, Layne
RED EAGLE, Baby Huey
RED RIVER CURLY, Bushwacker RODNEY, Havanah Boys
ROMEO, Menace Knls
ROSCOE, Cal W.
ROWDY, Coley

SABLE, Suburban Night Paw
SAMSON, Rebel Knls
SAMSON, S.T.P.
SANDY, SoulMan's
SATAN, BLP
SCHOTZIE, Kamakazee Knls
SCOOPY, Allen & Underground
SHADY LADY, Rebel Knls
SHEP, Sonny
SHOTZIE, Slsht & Who Ur Con
SINFUL SAILOR, P.Johnson
SIR DOG, Crews
SIR THOMAS, Trueblood Pound
SLICK HEAD, H&R Knls SMILEY, M.W. & LR
SNAKE, Braham
SNAKE JR, Bryan's
SOLUTION, Head Hunter
SPANKY, J.C.K & Coley
SPARKY, Rising Star Knls
SPIKEY, Beach Boy Billy
SPOOKY, Rebel Knls
SPORT, Bonney's
STAN D MAN, RBB & Havannah
STREET SWEEPER, DN TrJ Knl
SUBOY, Chaos Knls
SUNNY BOY, City Slicks

TANK, Tomcat
THIRTY FIVE (35), Rushin Knls
TINA, Dead Serious Knls
TOMMY BOY, Carribean Knls TRIGGER MAN, Soilman
TROUBLE, J.Allen
TROUBLE SOME, Chappy Pit

VIRGIL, D.O.A VIRGIL, O.Steven's

WEEHUNT, Irish Jerry

YELLOW, Tant YELLOW BUCK, SCK

ZEBO, Adams

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