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Subject: Re: Jake Wilder


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clayton
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Date Posted: 18:26:59 06/08/06 Thu

>My history with Jake Wilder was not as involved as
>some others can claim, as he and I lived in different
>parts of the country.
>The man who taught me dogs had his own pit bull
>registry, as well as an associated magazine. Jake was
>a contributor to that magazine and therefore had a
>close relationship with my teacher. It was from this
>relationship, that I had the opportunity to write and
>speak with Jake Wilder. I contacted Mr. Wilder, as I
>was gathering all the information I could find about
>Bert Clouse. Jake knew Mr. Clouse and he was able to
>forward some useful information to me. Somehow
>though, the OFRN dogs always became the main topic of
>conversation and letters.
>
>As I have written in previous posts, I started with
>dogs at an interesting time.
>Richard Stratton’s first book had just been out for a
>little while and the popularity of pit bulls was
>increasing exponentially.
>The late 70’s was still riding the wave of “heightened
>sporting activity” and there was a lot of action on
>the West Coast.
>
>Stratton’s first book put a heavy emphasis on the
>history of the OFRN dogs, so it made sense that most
>beginners would gravitate to that strain. I always
>liked those beautiful red dogs but worked with other
>lines during that time.
>
>Nevertheless, I do remember following the current OFRN
>breedings of that era.
>Being associated with my teacher opened quite a few
>doors and I was able to be present at various sporting
>events. I saw first-hand what the OFRN dogs of the
>late 70’s and 80’s were made of, as some of the newer
>fanciers were trying them out.
>
>Jake was a very pleasant person to speak with and was
>very personable.
>Even over the phone you could detect certain innocence
>and he had a special country charm. He seemed to
>enjoy company and conversation.
>
>Old Jake is not with us anymore and some of what I
>know is not flattering about the man; however, when
>adding information to a subject it is best to relate
>the truth.
>
>Per the letters that I have openly shared and made
>public, Jake owned pit bulls since the age of 14,
>which gave him 50 years of experience by the early
>60’s. He was well liked by quite a few famous
>dog-men, who allowed Jake access to some very notable
>dogs (i.e. Geronimo/Red Dixie).
>
>When I look at the history of Jake’s breedings, I see
>a direct correlation between his results, and the
>following
>• His influence with associates,
>• His economic condition
>• His age
>• His breeding methods,
>
>
>As I followed what Jake did, I had an appreciation for
>what he was trying to accomplish early on. The
>following is not meant to be all inclusive, rather it
>is intended to give a point of reference to
>time-lines. I really liked these early breedings.
>
>Wilder’s Spice/Wilder’s Cindy
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=26912
>Here you can see where Jake brought Nugget and Spice
>together. This female was brought to old Geronimo
>himself, along with Clouse’s Butcher Boy. Offspring
>from these two were used in successful programs. This
>blood looks to be the core of Jake’s yard, just as
>Geronimo became available.
>
>Wilder’s Tammy
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=3462
>Nebletts was brought into the mix, bred straight to
>Geronimo.
>
>Tartenaar’s Cindy
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=3499
>Hemphill’s Red Dixie (Geronimo’s sister) was bred to
>Red Ace, to produce Cindy. Cindy was used by Everett
>Tartenaar, who had some good success.
>
>Wilder’s Red Dot
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=3476
>Looks like breeding Renee to Geronimo II was an honest
>attempt to infuse some good working blood with the
>Hemphill strain. The mix of these lines should have
>provided a good niche. Geronimo II was then smartly
>bred back to Red Dot.
>
>Spacy’s Taxi
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=8205
>Geronimo II to Coles/Nebletts/etc
>
>Brown’s Red Bruiser
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=3467
>Spacy’s Taxi back to Geronimo II. In my opinion, this
>was perhaps one of the last, smart breedings that Jake
>did. Bruiser anchored Mike Morgan’s yard.
>
>These double Geronimo II breedings (Red Dot/Taxi back
>to Geronimo II) produced some worthwhile
>representatives. Red Bruiser was a multi-time winner.
> Dogs from these breedings would most assuredly have
>required some heavy culling but if I could turn back
>time, I certainly would have acquired a few down from
>the above.
>
>Here is an example of where Jake was working with
>blood other than heavy Hemphill (with good results).
>Hiwassee’s Booger Boy
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=38333
>Sire to Grand Champion Lucky Strike. The dam to Gr.
>Ch. Lucky Strike was heavy Geronimo II and Red Dot.
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=38334
>
>It is my opinion that after the above breedings, the
>blood began to tank.
>
>In 1978, Jake Wilder was 80 years old. As father time
>begins to reel us in, some things just start to fall
>away from us… Including our dear associates.
>Based on the early breedings that Jake made, he seemed
>to have access to some worthwhile blood. As I wrote
>earlier, Jake was well liked and given access to many
>top flight dogs. As the associates who provided that
>blood all passed way, Jake lost access.
>This lead to fewer options and choices.
>
>Jake did not seem to hold on to his core blood very
>well. Jake was a WWI veteran and his only source of
>income was his pension. In later years, selling dogs
>was his only means of additional revenue. As the OFRN
>dogs became popular, Jake was breeding and selling
>dogs for whomever wanted one. More than once he sold
>off his foundation stock and had to get it back, via
>pups from his customers.
>
>As I was learning about OFRN dogs, I was directed to
>speak with Tom Browne (owner of Red Bruiser). I was
>told that he was the real action man behind Jake and
>that I could get the straight scoop from him. I had
>contact with Mr. Brown from 1982 to the late 80’s.
>Mr. Browne said that he liked Jake and would help him
>with delivering puppies and shipping dogs, because
>Jake was too old to do it all himself at the time.
>He said that earlier on, Jake was involved in rolling
>some dogs but never heard of or saw him match
>anything. Mr. Browne used other blood besides the
>OFRN stock and actively matched dogs. Tom Browne was
>a good man. As other people influenced Jake, Mr.
>Browne seemed to fade out of the picture. After that,
>Jakes dogs went to hell.
>Years after he stopped dealing with Jake, Mr. Browne
>told me that he did not understand why so many people
>were buying these “red dogs”, as “they would fight
>like hell for 20 minutes and then quit”. Because he
>was active with matching, Mr. Browne knew what to look
>for and selected the best of what was available from
>Jake’s stock, while the getting was still good. Heavy
>Bruiser stock still peaks an interest with me.
>
>The older generation was kind to Jake. He was the
>innocent country guy and they liked him. They did not
>take advantage of him. The newer generation did not
>have the same value system and treated him
>accordingly. As Jake became older, I believe his
>judgment was not what it once may have been and those
>that were close to him in later years, used his blood
>for their own intentions.
>
>I recall speaking with Jake on one occasion. He was
>telling me about a breeding that he was going to make
>with a male owned by an associate of his (circa mid
>80’s). He was making the breeding because he liked
>the structure and size of the male (over 80 lbs) and
>was amazed by the size of the dog’s feet. No mention
>of gameness or ability. The dog was Yeargain’s
>Buffalo Bill.
>
>So my opinion is that with the loss of true dog-men at
>his side, Jake lost the ability to infuse good blood
>into his program, along with the ability to select the
>right dogs to move forward with. Those that he teamed
>with in later years were not as knowledgeable and did
>not move the line in the right direction. Instead of
>infusing worthwhile blood like the kind listed above,
>we ended up with crosses with this shit in it.
>Jo Jo
><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printabl">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pedigrees/printabl</a>
>ePedigree.php?dog_id=3846
>
>As Tom Browne did, there have been some who have found
>worthwhile OFRN specimens and kept the blood straight
>(thank god for those folks). Some people say Jake
>wrecked the Hemphill blood. Even though he was not a
>true dog-man, I actually like what he did until he
>lost his good influences and his mind.




one of the best wilder dogs i have ever seen www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=37116

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